Boxee

Flash version 10.3 in Boxee Browser

Details

  • Type: Bug Bug
  • Status: Reopened Reopened
  • Priority: P1 P1
  • Resolution: Unresolved
  • Fix Version/s: Operations
  • Component/s: Web Browser
  • Labels:
    None
  • Product:
    Boxee Client
  • Severity:
    Critical
  • Version:
    1.1.2.19250
  • Operating System:
    Boxee Box
  • Number of attachments:
    0

Description

When I try and view NFL Game Pass content it informs me that the browser does not have the latest version of Flash player required. During my research I have seen posts on the forum of other users with similar issues requiring the latest Flash version 10.3 to watch some online content. I paid a lot of money for the Game Pass and to have it held back by a flash update is quite annoying. I'd really appreciate if this could be bundled out with an RC or update pack before the season starts in a couple of weeks.

Issue Links

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Bug - A problem which impairs or prevents the functions of the product. BOXEE-11126 4od asks to upgrade flash player

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  • Closed - The issue is considered finished, the resolution is correct. Issues which are closed can be reopened.

Bug - A problem which impairs or prevents the functions of the product. BOXEE-11175 UK TV Shows on Youtube saying Updgrade Flash, will not play.

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  • Closed - The issue is considered finished, the resolution is correct. Issues which are closed can be reopened.

Bug - A problem which impairs or prevents the functions of the product. BOXEE-11194 Channel 4 shows do not play on Boxee Box

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  • Closed - The issue is considered finished, the resolution is correct. Issues which are closed can be reopened.

Bug - A problem which impairs or prevents the functions of the product. BOXEE-12344 Can we have our channels back?

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  • Closed - The issue is considered finished, the resolution is correct. Issues which are closed can be reopened.

Bug - A problem which impairs or prevents the functions of the product. BOXEE-12896 As of today Global TV videos will not play using the Boxee Box. Message says need to upgrade Flash Player.

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  • Closed - The issue is considered finished, the resolution is correct. Issues which are closed can be reopened.

Bug - A problem which impairs or prevents the functions of the product. BOXEE-12897 Boxee Box - Global TV - Unable to watch - Requires flash 10.1 or later installed.

  • P2 -
  • Closed - The issue is considered finished, the resolution is correct. Issues which are closed can be reopened.

Bug - A problem which impairs or prevents the functions of the product. BOXEE-13008 Xfinity Playback Broken

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  • Closed - The issue is considered finished, the resolution is correct. Issues which are closed can be reopened.

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Ami Ben-David [Boxee] made changes -
Field Original Value New Value
Link This issue duplicates BOXEE-10731 [ BOXEE-10731 ]
Ami Ben-David [Boxee] made changes -
Status Open [ 1 ] Closed [ 6 ]
Resolution Duplicate [ 3 ]
Ami Ben-David [Boxee] made changes -
Resolution Duplicate [ 3 ]
Status Closed [ 6 ] Reopened [ 4 ]
Ami Ben-David [Boxee] made changes -
Link This issue duplicates BOXEE-10731 [ BOXEE-10731 ]
Ami Ben-David [Boxee] made changes -
Comment [ closed as duplicate of BOXEE-10731

please comment and vote on the linked issue. ]
Ami Ben-David [Boxee] made changes -
Issue Type Improvement [ 4 ] Bug [ 1 ]
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Fix Version/s Triage [ 11340 ]
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Jeff Ryan added a comment -
Please work on getting this fixed soon!
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Jeff Ryan added a comment - Please work on getting this fixed soon!
Yuval Tal [Boxee] made changes -
Assignee Tom Sella [Boxee] [ tsella ]
Yuval Tal [Boxee] made changes -
Fix Version/s Operations [ 11366 ]
Fix Version/s Triage [ 11340 ]
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Adam Pihach added a comment -
I have had the same problem with trying to watch Video Content from UFC.com on my television. It says I require the latest version of Flash as well. This was one of the major reasons why I bought the Boxee Box so it is discouraging to not be able to use one of it's main functions.
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Adam Pihach added a comment - I have had the same problem with trying to watch Video Content from UFC.com on my television. It says I require the latest version of Flash as well. This was one of the major reasons why I bought the Boxee Box so it is discouraging to not be able to use one of it's main functions.
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Chris Rocco added a comment -
More and more content is going to require Flash 10.3 as time passes... so I'm all for this request!
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Chris Rocco added a comment - More and more content is going to require Flash 10.3 as time passes... so I'm all for this request!
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Kovács László added a comment -
I have a bad feeling, that my BOXEE-9494 issue has the same origin, flash livestreams (like on http://clgaming.net/livestreams) are not playable on Boxee Box
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Kovács László added a comment - I have a bad feeling, that my BOXEE-9494 issue has the same origin, flash livestreams (like on http://clgaming.net/livestreams) are not playable on Boxee Box
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Ross Mulcahy added a comment -
this fix would be mush appreciated! thanks
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Ross Mulcahy added a comment - this fix would be mush appreciated! thanks
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Jon added a comment -
I agree that this fix would be greatly appreciated since Abode Flash is now up to 10.3. Game Pass does indeed require version 10.2 or above so this will help out people using it or other sites requiring 10.2 or 10.3 versions. Thank you.
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Jon added a comment - I agree that this fix would be greatly appreciated since Abode Flash is now up to 10.3. Game Pass does indeed require version 10.2 or above so this will help out people using it or other sites requiring 10.2 or 10.3 versions. Thank you.
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Jochen Deister added a comment -
I would also very much appreciate that his bug gets fixed quickly, the NFL game pass was actually my main reason for getting a boxee box
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Jochen Deister added a comment - I would also very much appreciate that his bug gets fixed quickly, the NFL game pass was actually my main reason for getting a boxee box
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Peter Bozickovic added a comment -
I'm surprised the programmers don't keep things like that updated, it's their job to do so, kind of inexcusable.
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Peter Bozickovic added a comment - I'm surprised the programmers don't keep things like that updated, it's their job to do so, kind of inexcusable.
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janne tolppanen added a comment -
Please fix soon, season is starting.
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janne tolppanen added a comment - Please fix soon, season is starting.
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innovativevsregressive added a comment - - edited
When attempting to view videos on http://uk.ufc.com a message is displayed that states that this version of flash isn't compatible which I guess means the latest version of flash is required to view videos.

http://forums.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=34583
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innovativevsregressive added a comment - - edited When attempting to view videos on http://uk.ufc.com a message is displayed that states that this version of flash isn't compatible which I guess means the latest version of flash is required to view videos. http://forums.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=34583
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Sanket Sheth added a comment - - edited
This effects a lot of YouTube content which many channels use such as channel 4, e4 and other mainstream content in the UK. Without YouTube the boxee is shelved.
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Sanket Sheth added a comment - - edited This effects a lot of YouTube content which many channels use such as channel 4, e4 and other mainstream content in the UK. Without YouTube the boxee is shelved.
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Morten Lund added a comment -
We are not able to watch any ad-supported stuff on YouTube. Please fix this soon.
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Morten Lund added a comment - We are not able to watch any ad-supported stuff on YouTube. Please fix this soon.
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Andy Potter added a comment -
This is a must fix for NFL/Boxee fans trying to cut the cord....
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Andy Potter added a comment - This is a must fix for NFL/Boxee fans trying to cut the cord....
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Kathrine Pontoppidan added a comment -
I want flash as well!
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Kathrine Pontoppidan added a comment - I want flash as well!
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Steve MacDonald added a comment -
This is a big deal holding me back from recommending boxee to others. Flash support is pretty much mandatory at this point in time.
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Steve MacDonald added a comment - This is a big deal holding me back from recommending boxee to others. Flash support is pretty much mandatory at this point in time.
Rafael Mizrahi [Boxee] made changes -
Link This issue is duplicated by BOXEE-10731 [ BOXEE-10731 ]
Rafael Mizrahi [Boxee] made changes -
Link This issue is duplicated by BOXEE-11126 [ BOXEE-11126 ]
Omer Alpern [Boxee] made changes -
Link This issue relates BOXEE-11148 [ BOXEE-11148 ]
Omer Alpern [Boxee] made changes -
Link This issue is duplicated by BOXEE-11129 [ BOXEE-11129 ]
Omer Alpern [Boxee] made changes -
Severity Major Critical
Priority P2 [ 3 ] P1 [ 2 ]
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S Evardson added a comment -
Another vote added here, the UK tv shows section just doesn't work without the Flash upgrade.
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S Evardson added a comment - Another vote added here, the UK tv shows section just doesn't work without the Flash upgrade.
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haveringcottage added a comment -
please fix this ASAP.

A web streamer that cannot stream web content is.... well.... dumb.
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haveringcottage added a comment - please fix this ASAP. A web streamer that cannot stream web content is.... well.... dumb.
Rafael Mizrahi [Boxee] made changes -
Link This issue is duplicated by BOXEE-11194 [ BOXEE-11194 ]
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Steve Best added a comment -
Any update from Tom Sella @ Boxee about this issue? Any ETA for a fix please?
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Steve Best added a comment - Any update from Tom Sella @ Boxee about this issue? Any ETA for a fix please?
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Tom Sella [Boxee] added a comment -
At this time Adobe does not make Flash 10.3 available to Linux CE implementations. Flash 10.2 is in the works.
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Tom Sella [Boxee] added a comment - At this time Adobe does not make Flash 10.3 available to Linux CE implementations. Flash 10.2 is in the works.
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Rasmus Lock Fuglsang added a comment -
Which version of 10.2 is in the works? (I have a hard dependency on 10.2.153 or later :D)
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Rasmus Lock Fuglsang added a comment - Which version of 10.2 is in the works? (I have a hard dependency on 10.2.153 or later :D)
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Nicolai Blom added a comment -
Any ETA of the Flash 10.2 upgrade? I a big NFL fan, and got the Boxee Box to watch the NFL. I have the same problem with the Headweb app, which also requires Flash 10.2. I received a special offer from Boxee for a free movie, but the app doesn’t work!
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Nicolai Blom added a comment - Any ETA of the Flash 10.2 upgrade? I a big NFL fan, and got the Boxee Box to watch the NFL. I have the same problem with the Headweb app, which also requires Flash 10.2. I received a special offer from Boxee for a free movie, but the app doesn’t work!
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Sanket Sheth added a comment -
The time its taken to solve this issue unfortunately really highlights the issues of the BoxeeBox. If we were running the Boxee on my laptop this would be a non issue. If Boxee want's to make it in hardware they need to be able to provide timely updates and fixes.
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Sanket Sheth added a comment - The time its taken to solve this issue unfortunately really highlights the issues of the BoxeeBox. If we were running the Boxee on my laptop this would be a non issue. If Boxee want's to make it in hardware they need to be able to provide timely updates and fixes.
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Nicolai Blom added a comment -
I totally agree
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Nicolai Blom added a comment - I totally agree
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Steve Best added a comment -
Tom - thank you for your response.
Please could you provide more information on Adobe Flash for Linux CE. I have had little success in Googling these terms.
I suppose the more people who try to get this available, the quicker you guys will be able to update the Boxee to include the latest release?
Is there a developer area/forum/website where Flash for Linux CE is discussed? Please excuse my ignorance.
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Steve Best added a comment - Tom - thank you for your response. Please could you provide more information on Adobe Flash for Linux CE. I have had little success in Googling these terms. I suppose the more people who try to get this available, the quicker you guys will be able to update the Boxee to include the latest release? Is there a developer area/forum/website where Flash for Linux CE is discussed? Please excuse my ignorance.
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Quagliero Sanchez added a comment -
Thanks for the update Tom. Could you provide an estimated date for the Flash 10.2 update, and some more information on the 10.3 issue? e.g. will Adobe ever make it available for Linux CE? Is there always a large delay between flash updates and them becoming available to Boxee?

I wouldn't want to see my rather expensive and new Boxee Box become redundant as a web streamer.
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Quagliero Sanchez added a comment - Thanks for the update Tom. Could you provide an estimated date for the Flash 10.2 update, and some more information on the 10.3 issue? e.g. will Adobe ever make it available for Linux CE? Is there always a large delay between flash updates and them becoming available to Boxee? I wouldn't want to see my rather expensive and new Boxee Box become redundant as a web streamer.
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Rasmus Lock Fuglsang added a comment -
I think the conclusion here is, that Boxee Box may have decided on a rather peculiar platform - since most of the content now relies on Flash.

The only viable solution is either a) get Adobe to support Linux CE (good luck), or b) contact the service-providers (that actually have apps for Boxee) and ask them to support Boxee Box (i.e. by not requiring a newer version of Flash than is possible on that platform).
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Rasmus Lock Fuglsang added a comment - I think the conclusion here is, that Boxee Box may have decided on a rather peculiar platform - since most of the content now relies on Flash. The only viable solution is either a) get Adobe to support Linux CE (good luck), or b) contact the service-providers (that actually have apps for Boxee) and ask them to support Boxee Box (i.e. by not requiring a newer version of Flash than is possible on that platform).
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Chris Orr added a comment -
Does anyone know the timeframe for 10.2 to be available? I'm looking for NFL gamepass too, and it needs 10.2 or higher. The season starts this week.
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Chris Orr added a comment - Does anyone know the timeframe for 10.2 to be available? I'm looking for NFL gamepass too, and it needs 10.2 or higher. The season starts this week.
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haveringcottage added a comment -
boxee have been falling short of their promises for so long.... it would take a miracle for this to be ready in the next couple of days....
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haveringcottage added a comment - boxee have been falling short of their promises for so long.... it would take a miracle for this to be ready in the next couple of days....
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Dustin Brand added a comment -
Just a reminder, but NFL is right around the corner, please update flash if there is any chance of getting it in (assuming 10.2 is done on Adobes side).
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Dustin Brand added a comment - Just a reminder, but NFL is right around the corner, please update flash if there is any chance of getting it in (assuming 10.2 is done on Adobes side).
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James Beidler added a comment -
10.3 is required for watchespn, which replaces espn3.
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James Beidler added a comment - 10.3 is required for watchespn, which replaces espn3.
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Karl added a comment -
4OD (Channel 4) in the UK is no longer working needs the latest, please get this fixed soon please.
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Karl added a comment - 4OD (Channel 4) in the UK is no longer working needs the latest, please get this fixed soon please.
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David Horwath added a comment -
Can someone please notify us when this will be fixed?
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David Horwath added a comment - Can someone please notify us when this will be fixed?
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Markus added a comment -
Oh man, this is the main feature why I bought the Boxee Box - please get this fixed asap. - Thanks
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Markus added a comment - Oh man, this is the main feature why I bought the Boxee Box - please get this fixed asap. - Thanks
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ruediger weigt added a comment -
how long it actually takes from the discovery of the error until the solution
6 weeks since the customer asking for improvement, but no one responded.
they want to or can not.? I now regret the purchase. the dependence of support is too large.
if they do not want, I've had bad luck. must normally give the flash player update for each update. always!!
and sorry for my bad english
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ruediger weigt added a comment - how long it actually takes from the discovery of the error until the solution 6 weeks since the customer asking for improvement, but no one responded. they want to or can not.? I now regret the purchase. the dependence of support is too large. if they do not want, I've had bad luck. must normally give the flash player update for each update. always!! and sorry for my bad english
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haveringcottage added a comment -
it would be helpful if the Flashplayer element of the firmware could be separated from the main firmware, and updated as needed.... it seems crazy that we have to wait for a 3 months firmware update cycle to get our boxes WORKING again!?!? This is an internet streamer guys.
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haveringcottage added a comment - it would be helpful if the Flashplayer element of the firmware could be separated from the main firmware, and updated as needed.... it seems crazy that we have to wait for a 3 months firmware update cycle to get our boxes WORKING again!?!? This is an internet streamer guys.
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Tom Sella [Boxee] added a comment -
I completely understand and share the frustration.

The Flash plugin is NOT developed by Boxee.

Timelines and which versions make it to embedded solutions in general and to the platform we are using in particular are not in our control.

When there is a version in the pipeline, as in this case, we are are very bullish on getting it sooner rather than later - and when it is released to us, it still has to undergo rigorous certifications by Adobe.

We are committed to BOTH OUR USERS AND TO ADOBE, to update whenever a new version IS AVAILABLE. And we do just that.

10.2 is not around the corner - it's a few months away.
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Tom Sella [Boxee] added a comment - I completely understand and share the frustration. The Flash plugin is NOT developed by Boxee. Timelines and which versions make it to embedded solutions in general and to the platform we are using in particular are not in our control. When there is a version in the pipeline, as in this case, we are are very bullish on getting it sooner rather than later - and when it is released to us, it still has to undergo rigorous certifications by Adobe. We are committed to BOTH OUR USERS AND TO ADOBE, to update whenever a new version IS AVAILABLE. And we do just that. 10.2 is not around the corner - it's a few months away.
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haveringcottage added a comment -
this is a great shame, but thank you for the info Tom. Users will now appreciate that this is not in the hands of boxee and we should be grumbling to adobe (or infact the websites in question, who have moved to a version of flash not fully supported by all platforms!)
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haveringcottage added a comment - this is a great shame, but thank you for the info Tom. Users will now appreciate that this is not in the hands of boxee and we should be grumbling to adobe (or infact the websites in question, who have moved to a version of flash not fully supported by all platforms!)
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Quagliero Sanchez added a comment -
Thanks for the update, it's obviously a very small market for Adobe so I doubt they prioritise it much. Such a shame.

NFL fans should pray for some sort of app that was mentioned for Boxee, Apple TV etc late last year. There is an iPhone/iPad GamePass app scheduled for release in September, so they obviously can do it in a non-flash environment.
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Quagliero Sanchez added a comment - Thanks for the update, it's obviously a very small market for Adobe so I doubt they prioritise it much. Such a shame. NFL fans should pray for some sort of app that was mentioned for Boxee, Apple TV etc late last year. There is an iPhone/iPad GamePass app scheduled for release in September, so they obviously can do it in a non-flash environment.
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Sanket Sheth added a comment -
@Tom any plans on getting some sort of 4oD app? As like many British users the Boxee Box loses a lot of content by not having access to Channel 4, E4 and 4Music.
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Sanket Sheth added a comment - @Tom any plans on getting some sort of 4oD app? As like many British users the Boxee Box loses a lot of content by not having access to Channel 4, E4 and 4Music.
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ruediger weigt added a comment -
@ tom: this really very very cute.

German support fom D-Link says the following:
Unfortunately I have to tell them that is expected in the next 4 weeks, no update of Flash Player.

In the next firmware update is version one, but this is probably not until November, since the Boxee software on the box is not developed by us, but of Boxee, we can unfortunately no further information as to an update.

The problem with the Flash player is known, the solution is, but in the hands of Boxee.
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certifications by Adobe, I understand, but that's an excuse. the update is already out there for a while, and should be implemented within the shortest possible time. is the whole purpose and the core of the flash player for BB. without this it is worthless and useless.
when the now always goes with the flash player then the BB is dead. My possitive reviews on Amazon I have deleted.
and the next step is the sale or return of BB, because it is not functional for video
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ruediger weigt added a comment - @ tom: this really very very cute. German support fom D-Link says the following: Unfortunately I have to tell them that is expected in the next 4 weeks, no update of Flash Player. In the next firmware update is version one, but this is probably not until November, since the Boxee software on the box is not developed by us, but of Boxee, we can unfortunately no further information as to an update. The problem with the Flash player is known, the solution is, but in the hands of Boxee. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- certifications by Adobe, I understand, but that's an excuse. the update is already out there for a while, and should be implemented within the shortest possible time. is the whole purpose and the core of the flash player for BB. without this it is worthless and useless. when the now always goes with the flash player then the BB is dead. My possitive reviews on Amazon I have deleted. and the next step is the sale or return of BB, because it is not functional for video
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Travis R added a comment -
For a streaming media box, you would think having the capability to have the most up to date version of Flash would be paramount when selecting/developing a platform. This is a huge disappointment.
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Travis R added a comment - For a streaming media box, you would think having the capability to have the most up to date version of Flash would be paramount when selecting/developing a platform. This is a huge disappointment.
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haveringcottage added a comment -
indeed. I cannot understand how boxee thought it would be acceptable to run with Linux CE... KNOWING that flash would be released later on this platform than on everything else?!?
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haveringcottage added a comment - indeed. I cannot understand how boxee thought it would be acceptable to run with Linux CE... KNOWING that flash would be released later on this platform than on everything else?!?
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Jim McLean added a comment -
It should be obvious to everyone on the ticket that at this point Boxee is at the mercy of Adobe. So unless you have a constructive comments, I (and likely others) would appreciate it if you keep the opinions to yourself.
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Jim McLean added a comment - It should be obvious to everyone on the ticket that at this point Boxee is at the mercy of Adobe. So unless you have a constructive comments, I (and likely others) would appreciate it if you keep the opinions to yourself.
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haveringcottage added a comment -
Thanks Jim, but pressure, in whatever form, IS constructive as it helps boxee to prioritize. I find it somewhat rich that you preface your "keep your opinions to yourself" comment with your OWN (somewhat pointless) comment, that boxee is at the mercy of Adobe. I agree that this is a technical reporting tool and as such, commentary should remain in the forum, but your patronising tone really isn't helpful either.
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haveringcottage added a comment - Thanks Jim, but pressure, in whatever form, IS constructive as it helps boxee to prioritize. I find it somewhat rich that you preface your "keep your opinions to yourself" comment with your OWN (somewhat pointless) comment, that boxee is at the mercy of Adobe. I agree that this is a technical reporting tool and as such, commentary should remain in the forum, but your patronising tone really isn't helpful either.
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Peter Maciocia added a comment -
4od seems to be working now for me at least, i assume they've changed the flash version or added an exception for boxee
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Peter Maciocia added a comment - 4od seems to be working now for me at least, i assume they've changed the flash version or added an exception for boxee
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Sanket Sheth added a comment -
The 4od website works and some 4od content on you tube channel works HOWEVER I just checked out the 4od Docs and the flash issue still remains. Therefore can Boxee scrape the 4od website content rather than the you tube channel?
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Sanket Sheth added a comment - The 4od website works and some 4od content on you tube channel works HOWEVER I just checked out the 4od Docs and the flash issue still remains. Therefore can Boxee scrape the 4od website content rather than the you tube channel?
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Rasmus Lock Fuglsang added a comment -
This issue is about flash support in boxee.
If you want to raise a 4oD issue, please do so separately, but stop trolling this issue please.
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Rasmus Lock Fuglsang added a comment - This issue is about flash support in boxee. If you want to raise a 4oD issue, please do so separately, but stop trolling this issue please.
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Peter Maciocia added a comment -
Seeing as most of the 4od issues are marked as duplicates of this bug i hardly see how mentioning that it is working now can be considered 'trolling'
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Peter Maciocia added a comment - Seeing as most of the 4od issues are marked as duplicates of this bug i hardly see how mentioning that it is working now can be considered 'trolling'
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Rasmus Lock Fuglsang added a comment -
Sorry, I was too unclear on my previous comment.

1) All 4oD comments that goes like "Please fix Flash support ASAP" and "What can we do to make Adobe run faster" is GOOD (if bruteforce doesn't work - apply some more).

2) All comments like "would you please make a better 4oD app" or "you could scrape something for...", that is, comments that are NOT related to the Flash update should be handled elsewhere.

Meaning your comment was definitely not trolling! :D
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Rasmus Lock Fuglsang added a comment - Sorry, I was too unclear on my previous comment. 1) All 4oD comments that goes like "Please fix Flash support ASAP" and "What can we do to make Adobe run faster" is GOOD (if bruteforce doesn't work - apply some more). 2) All comments like "would you please make a better 4oD app" or "you could scrape something for...", that is, comments that are NOT related to the Flash update should be handled elsewhere. Meaning your comment was definitely not trolling! :D
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Rasmus Lock Fuglsang added a comment -
Back on topic.

What can we (as users) do to resolve this?

Can we somehow apply more pressure on Adobe to get the CE Linux support re-prioritized?
Can we apply pressure on the content-owners as to not require Flash versions not supported on Boxee to content served by their applications?

How?
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Rasmus Lock Fuglsang added a comment - Back on topic. What can we (as users) do to resolve this? Can we somehow apply more pressure on Adobe to get the CE Linux support re-prioritized? Can we apply pressure on the content-owners as to not require Flash versions not supported on Boxee to content served by their applications? How?
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Michael Rose added a comment -
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira
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Michael Rose added a comment - http://bugs.adobe.com/jira ;-)
Omer Alpern [Boxee] made changes -
Link This issue is depended by BOXEE-11062 [ BOXEE-11062 ]
Omer Alpern [Boxee] made changes -
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Omer Alpern [Boxee] made changes -
Link This issue depends BOXEE-11062 [ BOXEE-11062 ]
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Chris Lomman added a comment -
Would really love for this to be fixed asap so I can enjoy the NFL game pass as it is meant to be!
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Chris Lomman added a comment - Would really love for this to be fixed asap so I can enjoy the NFL game pass as it is meant to be!
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ruediger weigt added a comment - - edited
I installed the latest beta version boxee_1.2.1.20392 . no change

I read in various forums that the problem is months since second
what prevents her support? and please do not pass the blame for adobe.
they write the firmware and can this version with the latest program it


Generally, there are problems since the beginning with Adobe Flash Player update. Although I was actually informed about the features that I had overlooked this point,
and thus made ​​a bad buy. The German support emphasizes the Flash Player is not a core function.
The English support blames Adobe.
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ruediger weigt added a comment - - edited I installed the latest beta version boxee_1.2.1.20392 . no change I read in various forums that the problem is months since second what prevents her support? and please do not pass the blame for adobe. they write the firmware and can this version with the latest program it Generally, there are problems since the beginning with Adobe Flash Player update. Although I was actually informed about the features that I had overlooked this point, and thus made ​​a bad buy. The German support emphasizes the Flash Player is not a core function. The English support blames Adobe.
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ruediger weigt added a comment - - edited
I would like to see again lovefilm.de. Without the current flash player you can not.
The longer I search .....

There are 10.2 Beta Adobe december 2010.....10 months

I need to sell bb?
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ruediger weigt added a comment - - edited I would like to see again lovefilm.de. Without the current flash player you can not. The longer I search ..... There are 10.2 Beta Adobe december 2010.....10 months I need to sell bb?
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ruediger weigt added a comment - - edited
RC Firmware 1.2.1.20426(4 October) still does not work.
no update for flash-integrated

and today Adobe Flash Player 11.0 , 5. Oktober 2011,

lose customers and I apologize that they have bought your product again not happen again


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ruediger weigt added a comment - - edited RC Firmware 1.2.1.20426(4 October) still does not work. no update for flash-integrated and today Adobe Flash Player 11.0 , 5. Oktober 2011, lose customers and I apologize that they have bought your product again not happen again
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Sam Houchins added a comment -
OK, what is the delay on resolving this? I can't get my NFL Game Rewind to work. What good is the BB if you folks can't keep it current????
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Sam Houchins added a comment - OK, what is the delay on resolving this? I can't get my NFL Game Rewind to work. What good is the BB if you folks can't keep it current????
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Oussama El-Rawas added a comment - - edited
I add my voice to others. I understand that you are at the mercy of adobe. This is business though, and you need to push adobe to get you what you need to fix this...

UPDATE: With the latest firmware update, my issue with watch espn (i.e.espn3) has been resolved
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Oussama El-Rawas added a comment - - edited I add my voice to others. I understand that you are at the mercy of adobe. This is business though, and you need to push adobe to get you what you need to fix this... UPDATE: With the latest firmware update, my issue with watch espn (i.e.espn3) has been resolved
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ruediger weigt added a comment -
Firmware 1.2.1.20451 und wie zu erwarten keine update für Adobe

Da dieses Problem keine interessiert kann ich auch in meiner Sprache schreiben.
Es kann doch nicht so schwierig sein Adobe Flash Player zu aktualisieren.
Die sinn frei ausrede das Adobe schuld ist, halte ich gelinde gesagt für eine Ausrede.
Wann bekommen sie dieses update in den Griff.
Können oder wollen sie keine Auskunft darüber geben?
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ruediger weigt added a comment - Firmware 1.2.1.20451 und wie zu erwarten keine update für Adobe Da dieses Problem keine interessiert kann ich auch in meiner Sprache schreiben. Es kann doch nicht so schwierig sein Adobe Flash Player zu aktualisieren. Die sinn frei ausrede das Adobe schuld ist, halte ich gelinde gesagt für eine Ausrede. Wann bekommen sie dieses update in den Griff. Können oder wollen sie keine Auskunft darüber geben?
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Jeff Ryan added a comment -
Wow, created this in July, and still no updated Flash version? WTF Boxee. Please update this, and stay on top of the times!
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Jeff Ryan added a comment - Wow, created this in July, and still no updated Flash version? WTF Boxee. Please update this, and stay on top of the times!
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Quagliero Sanchez added a comment -
Could we get an update from Tom @ Boxee on the progress of this, please?

It's been about 6 weeks since 10.2 was 'a few months away', is this still the case?
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Quagliero Sanchez added a comment - Could we get an update from Tom @ Boxee on the progress of this, please? It's been about 6 weeks since 10.2 was 'a few months away', is this still the case?
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Travis R added a comment -
According to the boxee blog there will be a Flash update in the fall release.
Hope it fixes this problem.
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Travis R added a comment - According to the boxee blog there will be a Flash update in the fall release. Hope it fixes this problem.
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innovativevsregressive added a comment -
Channel 4 on Demand and ITV Player no longer support the version of flash Boxee uses thus their videos cannot be viewed.

http://forums.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=45045
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innovativevsregressive added a comment - Channel 4 on Demand and ITV Player no longer support the version of flash Boxee uses thus their videos cannot be viewed. http://forums.boxee.tv/showthread.php?t=45045
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ruediger weigt added a comment -
@Travis R

Beta Firmware: 1.2.2.20482 (25. Oktober)

I do not think so
The new beta update has no new flash player

@Quagliero Sanchez

no, is overdue for one year

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I soon tired, because the device is in Príncipe dead.
and because there are apparently no one cares.
and I say again to the box can also stream and thus the Flash Player important.
even if the German support claims that contrary

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ruediger weigt added a comment - @Travis R Beta Firmware: 1.2.2.20482 (25. Oktober) I do not think so The new beta update has no new flash player @Quagliero Sanchez no, is overdue for one year --------------------------------------------- I soon tired, because the device is in Príncipe dead. and because there are apparently no one cares. and I say again to the box can also stream and thus the Flash Player important. even if the German support claims that contrary
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Christopher Scott added a comment -
I get that the hold-up here is Adobe, but, man - is this critical! Please do whatever you can to get this on BB ASAP.
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Christopher Scott added a comment - I get that the hold-up here is Adobe, but, man - is this critical! Please do whatever you can to get this on BB ASAP.
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Chris Rowley added a comment -
OK, I appreciate that when content providers change the format of their videos it is difficult to keep up, however, what is inexcusable is that the Boxee is still being advertised as providing access to the content partners that can not be accessed - both on boxee.tv (NFL etc.) and on UK retailer's sites (4OD). D-Link are effectively guilty of misselling the Boxee and as it is a known issue, it can only be regarding as deliberate misrepresentation! If the matter is not going to be fixed asap, efforts should be made to ensure no claims are made as to the ability of Boxee to access content it can not access!
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Chris Rowley added a comment - OK, I appreciate that when content providers change the format of their videos it is difficult to keep up, however, what is inexcusable is that the Boxee is still being advertised as providing access to the content partners that can not be accessed - both on boxee.tv (NFL etc.) and on UK retailer's sites (4OD). D-Link are effectively guilty of misselling the Boxee and as it is a known issue, it can only be regarding as deliberate misrepresentation! If the matter is not going to be fixed asap, efforts should be made to ensure no claims are made as to the ability of Boxee to access content it can not access!
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Chris Orr added a comment -
@Chris Rowley - I can't agree more - maybe if enough people email trading standards in the UK we can get something moving???
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Chris Orr added a comment - @Chris Rowley - I can't agree more - maybe if enough people email trading standards in the UK we can get something moving???
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Steve Best added a comment -
It's good to see lots of people voicing opinions - at least that means the issue gets noticed.
However after watching this issue for some time, I think the Boxee team are very aware of this issue so the above suggestion is not the best way forward. Trying to start a PR nightmare, smear campaign or legal headache for either the Boxee team or the hardware manufacturers is not going to help this issue, just do damage and take attention away from getting it fixed.

It's pretty clear the content providers are the ones at fault for moving to a flash version which does not fully represent their audience and excludes people like us. Unfortunately, this leaves Boxee at the mercy of Adobe when it comes to getting the latest flash version on there.

I would ask the community & fellow Boxee lovers (and haters) to politely and patiently wait. It will happen.

I would also ask the Boxee team, developers, JIRA contributors etc, to please post regular (i.e. bi-weekly) updates on this issue to report progress, timescales or developments. Even if there is no good news, a quick status report would be very much appreciated and keep everyone informed...which as loyal customers, is the decent thing to do.
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Steve Best added a comment - It's good to see lots of people voicing opinions - at least that means the issue gets noticed. However after watching this issue for some time, I think the Boxee team are very aware of this issue so the above suggestion is not the best way forward. Trying to start a PR nightmare, smear campaign or legal headache for either the Boxee team or the hardware manufacturers is not going to help this issue, just do damage and take attention away from getting it fixed. It's pretty clear the content providers are the ones at fault for moving to a flash version which does not fully represent their audience and excludes people like us. Unfortunately, this leaves Boxee at the mercy of Adobe when it comes to getting the latest flash version on there. I would ask the community & fellow Boxee lovers (and haters) to politely and patiently wait. It will happen. I would also ask the Boxee team, developers, JIRA contributors etc, to please post regular (i.e. bi-weekly) updates on this issue to report progress, timescales or developments. Even if there is no good news, a quick status report would be very much appreciated and keep everyone informed...which as loyal customers, is the decent thing to do.
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Dustin Brand added a comment - - edited
Bi-weekly update:

Google is currently shipping Adobe Flash CE 10.2 on all their 2.0 Google TV devices (including Sony TV's and Logitech Revues) . Other players like Roku and the like already have this in their firmwares. This fixed 100% of the issues with users with NFL, etc on Google TV.

10.3 should ship in a month or 2 following, or they may skip it and hit 11 with the ICS release to GTV in early 2012 (guess there). Adobe Flash CE 10.2 shipped in May of 2011 - just for reference.

Boxee - no more excuses.

Dustin Brand
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Dustin Brand added a comment - - edited Bi-weekly update: Google is currently shipping Adobe Flash CE 10.2 on all their 2.0 Google TV devices (including Sony TV's and Logitech Revues) . Other players like Roku and the like already have this in their firmwares. This fixed 100% of the issues with users with NFL, etc on Google TV. 10.3 should ship in a month or 2 following, or they may skip it and hit 11 with the ICS release to GTV in early 2012 (guess there). Adobe Flash CE 10.2 shipped in May of 2011 - just for reference. Boxee - no more excuses. Dustin Brand
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Comment [ There is nothing you users can do to solve this and bitching here doesn't get it solved.

This is an issue with Flash moving from 10.x to 10.3. This process has been rattled with bugs by Adobe.

Adobe won't release 10.2 or 3 on Linux until it works, and right now it's not working very well.

I'd love to tell you all this will be fixed tomorrow, but here Boxee is a rock in a hard place and Adobe is somewhere in there not fixing their problem/s. 10.2 is rattled with as many bugs as 10.3 so you all will wait a while. 10.3x is around the corner to fix 10.2,3 bugs. ]
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Travis R added a comment -
@Steve, we have been patient. It's been months. This level of "support" is inexcusable.
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Travis R added a comment - @Steve, we have been patient. It's been months. This level of "support" is inexcusable.
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Chris Rowley added a comment -
@ Steve, speaking from experience of industry, I don't think you could be more wrong - Getting the attention of senior management in D-Link is exactly what will get the ball rolling - at the moment, it's known about in the development team but I doubt there are any D-Link board members tracking the issue - they certainly would be if they were at risk of the units being withdrawn from the shelves!
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Chris Rowley added a comment - @ Steve, speaking from experience of industry, I don't think you could be more wrong - Getting the attention of senior management in D-Link is exactly what will get the ball rolling - at the moment, it's known about in the development team but I doubt there are any D-Link board members tracking the issue - they certainly would be if they were at risk of the units being withdrawn from the shelves!
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haveringcottage added a comment -
BOXEE STAFF>..... PLEASE CAN YOU PROVIDE SOME KIND OF EXPLANATION AS TO THE HOLD UP THAT IS MAKING MY BOXEE BOX COMPLETELY USELESS RIGHT NOW.?!?!

THIS REALLY IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!
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haveringcottage added a comment - BOXEE STAFF>..... PLEASE CAN YOU PROVIDE SOME KIND OF EXPLANATION AS TO THE HOLD UP THAT IS MAKING MY BOXEE BOX COMPLETELY USELESS RIGHT NOW.?!?! THIS REALLY IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!
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innovativevsregressive added a comment - - edited
Programmes from Channel 4 and Channel 5 on YouTube can no longer be viewed as a message appears stating flash has to be updated.

(For those wanting an explanation from Boxee: http://forums.boxee.tv/showthread.php?p=224196#post224196

"The problem for Boxee is that Adobe must release a version of Flash compiled for the Boxee Box platform (CE Linux on the Intel CE4100).

If Adobe hasn't done this then it doesn't matter if there is a release for Windows/Linux/OSX, there isn't a version for the Boxee Box.

Blaming Boxee for the non-release of a CE-Linux version for the INTEL CE4100 is pointless, they can't do anything about it (except keep pressuring Adobe to release an updated build)!" )
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innovativevsregressive added a comment - - edited Programmes from Channel 4 and Channel 5 on YouTube can no longer be viewed as a message appears stating flash has to be updated. (For those wanting an explanation from Boxee: http://forums.boxee.tv/showthread.php?p=224196#post224196 "The problem for Boxee is that Adobe must release a version of Flash compiled for the Boxee Box platform (CE Linux on the Intel CE4100). If Adobe hasn't done this then it doesn't matter if there is a release for Windows/Linux/OSX, there isn't a version for the Boxee Box. Blaming Boxee for the non-release of a CE-Linux version for the INTEL CE4100 is pointless, they can't do anything about it (except keep pressuring Adobe to release an updated build)!" )
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haveringcottage added a comment -
except that that just IS NOT the case.

There IS a CE Linux build of Flash 10.2 - it's being used on the Google TV platform right now.

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haveringcottage added a comment - except that that just IS NOT the case. There IS a CE Linux build of Flash 10.2 - it's being used on the Google TV platform right now.
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Rasmus Lock Fuglsang added a comment -
What you CAN do is return the Boxee Box - since it's sold (and closed) SOLELY for the purpose of delivering specific content to the end-user.

When it fails to do so (regardless of what the excuses may be), the end-user in effect does NOT get what they paid for.

This has moved from being a joke to being a serious violation of the Boxee to end-user contract.

The impact is severe - NO users actually buying the product for anything put "local media" will ever recommend the Box to any one else.
The existing owners will suffer - since D-Link eventually will stop posting money into a dead product.

Saying that "it's not Boxees fault - stop blaming them" is just plain wrong. They don't deliver on a PROMISE - that IS their fault - they shouldn't build a product that relies so heavily on Flash, and then choose a platform unsupported by that same technology.
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Rasmus Lock Fuglsang added a comment - What you CAN do is return the Boxee Box - since it's sold (and closed) SOLELY for the purpose of delivering specific content to the end-user. When it fails to do so (regardless of what the excuses may be), the end-user in effect does NOT get what they paid for. This has moved from being a joke to being a serious violation of the Boxee to end-user contract. The impact is severe - NO users actually buying the product for anything put "local media" will ever recommend the Box to any one else. The existing owners will suffer - since D-Link eventually will stop posting money into a dead product. Saying that "it's not Boxees fault - stop blaming them" is just plain wrong. They don't deliver on a PROMISE - that IS their fault - they shouldn't build a product that relies so heavily on Flash, and then choose a platform unsupported by that same technology.
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Quagliero Sanchez added a comment -
I have to agree with Rasmus. Whilst I can appreciate that it appears Boxee are at the mercy of Adobe, it was the Boxee dev team who chose to use a chipset and OS that appears to lag well behind in flash development. For a web media player this is massive oversight that cannot be overlooked. Someone should be getting onto D-Link about this as advertising it as do-it-all web media player at the moment is just plain wrong. I really didn't think when I created this issue at the end of July that we'd still be sitting here in November, with only one update of note from the Boxee team.

Not everyone scours and reads forums before purchasing, especially if the product claims to do everything out-of-the-box. I would be very angry if I'd just bought one and tried to watch content only to find out that I couldn't due to hardware limitations (that I couldn't do anything about).
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Quagliero Sanchez added a comment - I have to agree with Rasmus. Whilst I can appreciate that it appears Boxee are at the mercy of Adobe, it was the Boxee dev team who chose to use a chipset and OS that appears to lag well behind in flash development. For a web media player this is massive oversight that cannot be overlooked. Someone should be getting onto D-Link about this as advertising it as do-it-all web media player at the moment is just plain wrong. I really didn't think when I created this issue at the end of July that we'd still be sitting here in November, with only one update of note from the Boxee team. Not everyone scours and reads forums before purchasing, especially if the product claims to do everything out-of-the-box. I would be very angry if I'd just bought one and tried to watch content only to find out that I couldn't due to hardware limitations (that I couldn't do anything about).
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Pieter-Jan Kuyten added a comment -
@innovativevsregressive

The forum post you are referencing was made by me and I don't work for Boxee, so that wasn't an official explanation from Boxee.
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Pieter-Jan Kuyten added a comment - @innovativevsregressive The forum post you are referencing was made by me and I don't work for Boxee, so that wasn't an official explanation from Boxee.
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Travis R added a comment -
Anyone know what this means (this is in the history section):

This issue is depended by BOXEE-11062 [ BOXEE-11062 ]

If I go to the page for BOXEE-11062 (http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-11062) I get a permission error.

I hope this means they are actively pursuing other options instead of sitting around and waiting on Adobe.
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Travis R added a comment - Anyone know what this means (this is in the history section): This issue is depended by BOXEE-11062 [ BOXEE-11062 ] If I go to the page for BOXEE-11062 ( http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-11062 ) I get a permission error. I hope this means they are actively pursuing other options instead of sitting around and waiting on Adobe.
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Michael Rose added a comment -
It means the security level is set above your permissions. Likely an internal ticket for Boxee.
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Michael Rose added a comment - It means the security level is set above your permissions. Likely an internal ticket for Boxee.
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Christopher Scott added a comment -
Adobe just announced it's ceasing to develop mobile versions of Flash: http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/flash-focus.html
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Christopher Scott added a comment - Adobe just announced it's ceasing to develop mobile versions of Flash: http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2011/11/flash-focus.html
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Rasmus Lock Fuglsang added a comment -
Yay, then the problem will soon rectify it self - when all those content-providers moves to html5
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Rasmus Lock Fuglsang added a comment - Yay, then the problem will soon rectify it self - when all those content-providers moves to html5
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ruediger weigt added a comment -
ilovefilm.de has done has changed over to SilverLight

which is not at all supportive of bb.

I can now throw away or sell

bye
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ruediger weigt added a comment - ilovefilm.de has done has changed over to SilverLight which is not at all supportive of bb. I can now throw away or sell bye
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Michael Dutcheshen added a comment -
The dailymotion website is now saying I need to upgrade flash player in order to view videos. This happened overnight. Hope this can be fixed asap.
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Michael Dutcheshen added a comment - The dailymotion website is now saying I need to upgrade flash player in order to view videos. This happened overnight. Hope this can be fixed asap.
Omer Alpern [Boxee] made changes -
Link This issue is duplicated by BOXEE-11175 [ BOXEE-11175 ]
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haveringcottage added a comment -
@ TOm Sella - any update please? on 8 September you said the update was a few months away - does that mean it will be integrated into the Heidi?
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haveringcottage added a comment - @ TOm Sella - any update please? on 8 September you said the update was a few months away - does that mean it will be integrated into the Heidi?
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Travis R added a comment -
I was told that Boxee has no plans to update flash, they've basically just adopted a "wait and see" approach regarding streaming content/flash/silverlight/html5/etc.
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Travis R added a comment - I was told that Boxee has no plans to update flash, they've basically just adopted a "wait and see" approach regarding streaming content/flash/silverlight/html5/etc.
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raymond k banville added a comment -
Nothing.. not even a response. Not a note that the developers are working on it. Been 5 months. Are they working on curing world hunger? Cancer? iPhone 6? Am I going to see Duke Nukem before I get flash updated on my device?
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raymond k banville added a comment - Nothing.. not even a response. Not a note that the developers are working on it. Been 5 months. Are they working on curing world hunger? Cancer? iPhone 6? Am I going to see Duke Nukem before I get flash updated on my device?
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haveringcottage added a comment -
Travis - I hope you are f*cking joking. I bought a media streamer and the only thing i can stream in the UK is BBC. That's just plain wrong. Boxee, please can you at least confirm your policy regarding updating flash. Yes? No? Impossible?
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haveringcottage added a comment - Travis - I hope you are f*cking joking. I bought a media streamer and the only thing i can stream in the UK is BBC. That's just plain wrong. Boxee, please can you at least confirm your policy regarding updating flash. Yes? No? Impossible?
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Andy Greasley added a comment -
So glad i checked this box first, i was under the impression that this would stream all uk web content (itv play, 5 on demand etc) and in fact was sold to me under that premise. Box looks great just hope this issue gets resolved soon
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Andy Greasley added a comment - So glad i checked this box first, i was under the impression that this would stream all uk web content (itv play, 5 on demand etc) and in fact was sold to me under that premise. Box looks great just hope this issue gets resolved soon
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Travis R added a comment -
If you want an update, I'd suggest tweeting Tom at twitter.com/tsella
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Travis R added a comment - If you want an update, I'd suggest tweeting Tom at twitter.com/tsella
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Fred Forse added a comment -
please fix, this is lame.
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Fred Forse added a comment - please fix, this is lame.
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john smith added a comment -
Add megavideo to the list, using 1.5.0.23151.

This is really lame, websites are updating there flash version Boxee need to fix this or create a workaround and force Adobe's Hands if they must to get the source code for there own flash player. Or just start support Adobe's version of Flash so they don't have to keep up.
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john smith added a comment - Add megavideo to the list, using 1.5.0.23151. This is really lame, websites are updating there flash version Boxee need to fix this or create a workaround and force Adobe's Hands if they must to get the source code for there own flash player. Or just start support Adobe's version of Flash so they don't have to keep up.
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john smith added a comment -
I used to use megavideo with premium account to watch shows and now this, sure not Boxee fault but its there fault for not providing a fix for this long.
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john smith added a comment - I used to use megavideo with premium account to watch shows and now this, sure not Boxee fault but its there fault for not providing a fix for this long.
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innovativevsregressive added a comment -
"Speaking of a flash update the following was posted on Boxee's facebook wall:

"Beyza Solhan
Hi, Is it possible to watch any channels on websites if its above flash 10??
Wednesday at 23:28 ·

Boxee So, currently, there's no quick way to upgrade Flash. Adobe doesn't support Flash 10.3 (the latest version) on connected devices. We've been told they're working on Flash 11, which will be compatible, but we have not been given a timeline for it. So once we have one, we'll let everyone know. We want it as much as anyone. -Nick
22 hours ago

Beyza Solhan Wich abode flash is it working with at the moment? Thanks
20 hours ago

Boxee ‎10.1 is the current build -Nick
18 hours ago" "

http://forums.boxee.tv/showpost.php?p=237177&postcount=11
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innovativevsregressive added a comment - "Speaking of a flash update the following was posted on Boxee's facebook wall: "Beyza Solhan Hi, Is it possible to watch any channels on websites if its above flash 10?? Wednesday at 23:28 · Boxee So, currently, there's no quick way to upgrade Flash. Adobe doesn't support Flash 10.3 (the latest version) on connected devices. We've been told they're working on Flash 11, which will be compatible, but we have not been given a timeline for it. So once we have one, we'll let everyone know. We want it as much as anyone. -Nick 22 hours ago Beyza Solhan Wich abode flash is it working with at the moment? Thanks 20 hours ago Boxee ‎10.1 is the current build -Nick 18 hours ago" " http://forums.boxee.tv/showpost.php?p=237177&postcount=11
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Donald Smith added a comment -
I'm having the same issue with Boxee running on a Windows XP system. Is the cause the same, or is there a way to fix it?
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Donald Smith added a comment - I'm having the same issue with Boxee running on a Windows XP system. Is the cause the same, or is there a way to fix it?
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darcilicious added a comment -
@Donald, you shouldn't have this problem on XP; please post your issue here for some help: http://forums.boxee.tv/forumdisplay.php?f=5
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darcilicious added a comment - @Donald, you shouldn't have this problem on XP; please post your issue here for some help: http://forums.boxee.tv/forumdisplay.php?f=5
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C McCarthy added a comment -
My Boxee can't play TV shows from FOX via the browser any more - "We've detected an older version of Flash Player. In order to view video on FOX.com please upgrade"... Annoying :(
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C McCarthy added a comment - My Boxee can't play TV shows from FOX via the browser any more - "We've detected an older version of Flash Player. In order to view video on FOX.com please upgrade"... Annoying :(
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Justin Thompson added a comment -
Fox is dead now. :-( I hate adobe.
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Justin Thompson added a comment - Fox is dead now. :-( I hate adobe.
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Mark Suman added a comment -
ESPN3 is still dead, too.

So there are a couple fixes to this problem:
1. Send feature requests to ESPN3, Fox, and others to create add HTML5 support.
2. Until that happens, get a better version of Flash in Boxee. (Adobe? Boxee? Make it happen.)
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Mark Suman added a comment - ESPN3 is still dead, too. So there are a couple fixes to this problem: 1. Send feature requests to ESPN3, Fox, and others to create add HTML5 support. 2. Until that happens, get a better version of Flash in Boxee. (Adobe? Boxee? Make it happen.)
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Don Derkewych added a comment -
Bought Boxee Need flash upgrade
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Don Derkewych added a comment - Bought Boxee Need flash upgrade
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Chris Ellis added a comment -
Please fix this. Cannot use any of the online content
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Chris Ellis added a comment - Please fix this. Cannot use any of the online content
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Scott Callan added a comment -
Disappointed, £170 to have the BBC iPlayer, ITV Player, 4OD and 5 player and what do I get? Zilch. None of the players were on the box, I needed to update which only gave me BBC iPlayer. I had to mess around and eventually got ITV Player from a repository which I'm guessing isn't the proper ITV Player but I was happy nonetheless, went to watch a program and oh, need flash player.

If we have to be technical enough to search and add repositories, why can't you make the browsers so that we can update the Flash players ourselves? What happens when a new Flash player comes out? Judging by the comments it's taken over 6 months for this update and still no ETA.

If I send the Boxee box back to Amazon, I lose 10%.

TOTALLY RIPPED OFF.
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Scott Callan added a comment - Disappointed, £170 to have the BBC iPlayer, ITV Player, 4OD and 5 player and what do I get? Zilch. None of the players were on the box, I needed to update which only gave me BBC iPlayer. I had to mess around and eventually got ITV Player from a repository which I'm guessing isn't the proper ITV Player but I was happy nonetheless, went to watch a program and oh, need flash player. If we have to be technical enough to search and add repositories, why can't you make the browsers so that we can update the Flash players ourselves? What happens when a new Flash player comes out? Judging by the comments it's taken over 6 months for this update and still no ETA. If I send the Boxee box back to Amazon, I lose 10%. TOTALLY RIPPED OFF.
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Michael Rose added a comment -
Since the espn/flash ticket was closed http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-9834
I'll ask the question here:

 When flash is updated by Boxee, will it be able to run espnnetworks.com?
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Michael Rose added a comment - Since the espn/flash ticket was closed http://jira.boxee.tv/browse/BOXEE-9834 I'll ask the question here:  When flash is updated by Boxee, will it be able to run espnnetworks.com?
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Travis R added a comment -
This isn't getting updated. Unless there is a proper app for it, it won't work.

http://mashable.com/2011/11/10/adobe-abandon-flash-tvs/
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Travis R added a comment - This isn't getting updated. Unless there is a proper app for it, it won't work. http://mashable.com/2011/11/10/adobe-abandon-flash-tvs/
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Mark Suman added a comment -
I posted a comment on the ESPN3 page asking if they have plans to convert over to HTML5. You guys who care about this should go "Like" my comment. My name is "mozmac".

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/17012
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Mark Suman added a comment - I posted a comment on the ESPN3 page asking if they have plans to convert over to HTML5. You guys who care about this should go "Like" my comment. My name is "mozmac". http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/17012
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chris clabaugh added a comment -
This is a huge issue which if unresolved will force many of us to abandon BoxeeBox; those using Boxee on a PC/Mac platform at least have some kludgey way to mitigate this disaster, but not for the Box hardware owners. Many of us on this forum are looked at to provide guidance on leading edge consumer electronics by family, friends, and associates- I will have to inform my network that this is a show stopper and therefore cannot recommend the Box unless and until this is corrected.
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chris clabaugh added a comment - This is a huge issue which if unresolved will force many of us to abandon BoxeeBox; those using Boxee on a PC/Mac platform at least have some kludgey way to mitigate this disaster, but not for the Box hardware owners. Many of us on this forum are looked at to provide guidance on leading edge consumer electronics by family, friends, and associates- I will have to inform my network that this is a show stopper and therefore cannot recommend the Box unless and until this is corrected.
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Daniel Martin added a comment -
Just adding my comment to the user frustration. The browser & flash support needs updating.
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Daniel Martin added a comment - Just adding my comment to the user frustration. The browser & flash support needs updating.
Ami Ben-David [Boxee] made changes -
Link This issue is duplicated by BOXEE-12344 [ BOXEE-12344 ]
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Al added a comment -
Couldn't help but notice that this issue has been going on since July 2011... With 135 000 Members on the Boxee Forums, that's ~27 Million $ worth of Boxee customers, you should have enough pull to convince Adobe to release a CE version of Flash 11 or be able to fund the release.

Are we there yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raNM0UvR_Bo

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Al added a comment - Couldn't help but notice that this issue has been going on since July 2011... With 135 000 Members on the Boxee Forums, that's ~27 Million $ worth of Boxee customers, you should have enough pull to convince Adobe to release a CE version of Flash 11 or be able to fund the release. Are we there yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raNM0UvR_Bo
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ruediger weigt added a comment -
I have firmware 1.5 installed today and as always, was the flash player is not updated, and no trace of silverlight.

They have promised to update it, unfortunately they do not keep their promise to support one. Ash says the German suppport it was not a major component but even then they take it from the description. also the flash is unsupported solutions. Unfortunately this is not a forum but only a temp recorded was no list of them.
160 € scrap

never again will I buy such a kind of system. and very special dlink
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ruediger weigt added a comment - I have firmware 1.5 installed today and as always, was the flash player is not updated, and no trace of silverlight. They have promised to update it, unfortunately they do not keep their promise to support one. Ash says the German suppport it was not a major component but even then they take it from the description. also the flash is unsupported solutions. Unfortunately this is not a forum but only a temp recorded was no list of them. 160 € scrap never again will I buy such a kind of system. and very special dlink
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Stephen Simpson added a comment -
@ruediger weigt As Boxee has stated many times before flash wont come until Adobe releases 11 for CE devices. Go talk to them...Boxee doesnt own or control Adobe. As for Silverlight, it has never ever been available on Linux...ever. So stop asking about it. Yes there is a linunx open source version but it lacks the DRM keys which means a vast vast majority of silverlight content would not be available even if we had the open source version.
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Stephen Simpson added a comment - @ruediger weigt As Boxee has stated many times before flash wont come until Adobe releases 11 for CE devices. Go talk to them...Boxee doesnt own or control Adobe. As for Silverlight, it has never ever been available on Linux...ever. So stop asking about it. Yes there is a linunx open source version but it lacks the DRM keys which means a vast vast majority of silverlight content would not be available even if we had the open source version.
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chris clabaugh added a comment -
Boxee needs a more aggressive BizDev team. I suspect Adobe would listen to 135k members. IMHO at least.
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chris clabaugh added a comment - Boxee needs a more aggressive BizDev team. I suspect Adobe would listen to 135k members. IMHO at least.
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Andy Spivey added a comment -
Silverlight is Microsoft - good luck getting them to port anything to anythign that is not MSFT.

@Boxee, has there been any progress noted by Adobe regarding Flash 11 for Linux CE? Earlier in the comments, it was noted it was a few months away...

Thanks much
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Andy Spivey added a comment - Silverlight is Microsoft - good luck getting them to port anything to anythign that is not MSFT. @Boxee, has there been any progress noted by Adobe regarding Flash 11 for Linux CE? Earlier in the comments, it was noted it was a few months away... Thanks much
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Christopher Scott added a comment -
Why does this question even come up? Flash for mobile including, presumably, Linux CE) is dead. Period.

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/exclusive-adobe-ceases-development-on-mobile-browser-flash-refocuses-efforts-on-html5-updated/19226

Rather than stress about Boxee's lack of current Flash support, you should be focusing your efforts on those web sites that have not yet moved to HTML5. Stop wasting your energy wishing for something that will not happen.
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Christopher Scott added a comment - Why does this question even come up? Flash for mobile including, presumably, Linux CE) is dead. Period. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/exclusive-adobe-ceases-development-on-mobile-browser-flash-refocuses-efforts-on-html5-updated/19226 Rather than stress about Boxee's lack of current Flash support, you should be focusing your efforts on those web sites that have not yet moved to HTML5. Stop wasting your energy wishing for something that will not happen.
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Andy Baker added a comment -
To be clear - Adobe has stopped development of Flash as a BROWSER PLUGIN on mobile devices beyond version 11. I assume it will still be used as part of Adobe Air on a variety of platforms - unless they cross-compile to native code in some way.

Anyway - Please can we have an official update on this? I've lost 50% of the content I bought it for (4OD). Considering BBC iPlayer only just started working again I've only had a half working Boxee for the entire time I've owned it.

I was nice enough not to send it back for a refund. Can the team be nice enough to give us a status update?
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Andy Baker added a comment - To be clear - Adobe has stopped development of Flash as a BROWSER PLUGIN on mobile devices beyond version 11. I assume it will still be used as part of Adobe Air on a variety of platforms - unless they cross-compile to native code in some way. Anyway - Please can we have an official update on this? I've lost 50% of the content I bought it for (4OD). Considering BBC iPlayer only just started working again I've only had a half working Boxee for the entire time I've owned it. I was nice enough not to send it back for a refund. Can the team be nice enough to give us a status update?
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yoos added a comment -
I know this isn't the optimum solution, but what about some workaround where the video is transcoded from Flash x down to the boxee flash version... or something like that... there has to be some way to get it to work with technology...
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yoos added a comment - I know this isn't the optimum solution, but what about some workaround where the video is transcoded from Flash x down to the boxee flash version... or something like that... there has to be some way to get it to work with technology...
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chris clabaugh added a comment -
The VP of the business unit was pretty clear in http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplatform/2011/11/flash-to-focus-on-pc-browsing-and-mobile-apps-adobe-to-more-aggressively-contribute-to-html5.html

In the post, see "...Flash Player 11.1 for Android and BlackBerry PlayBook..." which means that other software/hardware companies have done a better job at pitching Adobe. If those companies have an 11.1 embedded version, why can't the Boxee BD team get it? Very curious.
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chris clabaugh added a comment - The VP of the business unit was pretty clear in http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplatform/2011/11/flash-to-focus-on-pc-browsing-and-mobile-apps-adobe-to-more-aggressively-contribute-to-html5.html In the post, see "...Flash Player 11.1 for Android and BlackBerry PlayBook..." which means that other software/hardware companies have done a better job at pitching Adobe. If those companies have an 11.1 embedded version, why can't the Boxee BD team get it? Very curious.
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Andy Baker added a comment -
He's also very clear that he's talking about Flash as a browser plugin for mobile devices. I assume Boxee uses a non-plugin version in it's core? Unless it's all done via wrapped web views.

I'm not saying whether or not they are updating it - just that the Adobe announcement has no bearing on Boxee Box except by implication.

Now back to the important point. BOXEE STAFF - Official comment for your loyal paying customers please?

[PS I hate polluting a bug tracker with this stuff and I should know better. Let's take this to Twitter or the forums people. This thing is for technical matters specific to recreating or fixing a bug]
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Andy Baker added a comment - He's also very clear that he's talking about Flash as a browser plugin for mobile devices. I assume Boxee uses a non-plugin version in it's core? Unless it's all done via wrapped web views. I'm not saying whether or not they are updating it - just that the Adobe announcement has no bearing on Boxee Box except by implication. Now back to the important point. BOXEE STAFF - Official comment for your loyal paying customers please? [PS I hate polluting a bug tracker with this stuff and I should know better. Let's take this to Twitter or the forums people. This thing is for technical matters specific to recreating or fixing a bug]
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Brandon Elliott added a comment -
+1 subscribe. In favor of Flash update, if possible.
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Brandon Elliott added a comment - +1 subscribe. In favor of Flash update, if possible.
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Travis R added a comment -
If you want an update from Boxee, maybe try twitter? I've gotten responses in the Boxee Blog but the responses I got were wrong- they said it would be updated in the fall.

Here is Tom Sella's twitter: http://twitter.com/tsella
Boxee : http://twitter.com/boxee
Some other boxee notables:
https://twitter.com/avneron
https://twitter.com/idancohen
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Travis R added a comment - If you want an update from Boxee, maybe try twitter? I've gotten responses in the Boxee Blog but the responses I got were wrong- they said it would be updated in the fall. Here is Tom Sella's twitter: http://twitter.com/tsella Boxee : http://twitter.com/boxee Some other boxee notables: https://twitter.com/avneron https://twitter.com/idancohen
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samuel.wahlberget@gmail.com added a comment -
I understand that this is controlled by Adobe.

But to sell a box for the primary focus to stream from the web and then fail to support now widly used version of Flash is BS. Right now I can use my box for about 40% of what I would like to use it for. As soon as there is a valid alternative to Boxee Box I will change. I bought the box from you. You failed to have it working for the purpose the product was created (by not having a valid partnership with such a player as Adobe). Fix this or loose alot of customers!
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samuel.wahlberget@gmail.com added a comment - I understand that this is controlled by Adobe. But to sell a box for the primary focus to stream from the web and then fail to support now widly used version of Flash is BS. Right now I can use my box for about 40% of what I would like to use it for. As soon as there is a valid alternative to Boxee Box I will change. I bought the box from you. You failed to have it working for the purpose the product was created (by not having a valid partnership with such a player as Adobe). Fix this or loose alot of customers!
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Oussama El-Rawas added a comment -
So it seems that this is a more complicated issue than anticipated, with multiple companies being involved.
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Oussama El-Rawas added a comment - So it seems that this is a more complicated issue than anticipated, with multiple companies being involved.
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haveringcottage added a comment -
ok - boxee. i get that you devs are probably all very tired and frazzled, and things might be coming a bit unstuck around the edges. things have clearly not gone your way on so many fronts. i understand you dont have the clout of the bigger CE manufacturers. all we want as users is some COMMUNICATION. Just be honest with us. A quick blog post. An official tweet with some REAL INFORMATION. A response on this JIRA. Whats the deal? How long will we have to wait? Are adobe even working on anything? You're currently selling a product in the UK that cannot access much of anything as a result of this issue. Your core users are melting away because the new company line is to keep us in the dark all the time. Can you guys even remember the fun days before the money arrived and you had to release the 1.x?
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haveringcottage added a comment - ok - boxee. i get that you devs are probably all very tired and frazzled, and things might be coming a bit unstuck around the edges. things have clearly not gone your way on so many fronts. i understand you dont have the clout of the bigger CE manufacturers. all we want as users is some COMMUNICATION. Just be honest with us. A quick blog post. An official tweet with some REAL INFORMATION. A response on this JIRA. Whats the deal? How long will we have to wait? Are adobe even working on anything? You're currently selling a product in the UK that cannot access much of anything as a result of this issue. Your core users are melting away because the new company line is to keep us in the dark all the time. Can you guys even remember the fun days before the money arrived and you had to release the 1.x?
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Mark Suman added a comment -
+10000 haveringcottage. A little communication would go a long way.
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Mark Suman added a comment - +10000 haveringcottage. A little communication would go a long way.
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Al added a comment -
+1 Hav!

I vented out a long message of frustration. However, I deleted it since it wasn't going to help and the 5 minutes that it would have taken for someone at the Boxee team to read it, would have been 5 less minutes of their 9 to 5 job that they could spend trying to fix this 6+ month issue.

so all I'm going to say is +1 Hav!
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Al added a comment - +1 Hav! I vented out a long message of frustration. However, I deleted it since it wasn't going to help and the 5 minutes that it would have taken for someone at the Boxee team to read it, would have been 5 less minutes of their 9 to 5 job that they could spend trying to fix this 6+ month issue. so all I'm going to say is +1 Hav!
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Carlos Moreira added a comment -
More and more websites require newer versions of flash. This is ridiculous that we are still stuck with such an obsolete version of Flash. This needs to get updated or this box will be obsolete very quickly. Bad move basing the Box on Intel CE....I guess we're out of luck now that Intel CE has been discontinued??
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Carlos Moreira added a comment - More and more websites require newer versions of flash. This is ridiculous that we are still stuck with such an obsolete version of Flash. This needs to get updated or this box will be obsolete very quickly. Bad move basing the Box on Intel CE....I guess we're out of luck now that Intel CE has been discontinued??
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haveringcottage added a comment -
Marcel from the forum: Unfortunately due to the technical differences between Flash on a computer and Flash on a set top box, currently we do not have a quick way to upgrade Flash. Adobe does not support Flash 10.3 (the latest version) on connected devices like the Boxee Box. We are waiting to get a version and commence work - no timeline for that yet. As soon as we have one, I will make it known.

Yuvalt from the forum: Boxee does not develop Flash. Intel is the licensee (and actually working with other 3rd party on porting Flash to their platforms and certifying it). The only thing we are doing is push Intel for updates and bug fixes. At this point, due to the situation with Adobe Flash for TV, there is no clear roadmap for updating to a newer version. This is why you see this "no comment". We don't have good news and we don't have bad news. I would love to have newer version of Flash as much as you guys would, but it is completely out of our hands. If there is any update we will let you know. At this point it's clear that Flash for video is dying and that Internet videos will be based on HTML 5 (either standard or other, more secure means where DRM is required). We are in a transition period, that's why it's so frustrating.
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haveringcottage added a comment - Marcel from the forum: Unfortunately due to the technical differences between Flash on a computer and Flash on a set top box, currently we do not have a quick way to upgrade Flash. Adobe does not support Flash 10.3 (the latest version) on connected devices like the Boxee Box. We are waiting to get a version and commence work - no timeline for that yet. As soon as we have one, I will make it known. Yuvalt from the forum: Boxee does not develop Flash. Intel is the licensee (and actually working with other 3rd party on porting Flash to their platforms and certifying it). The only thing we are doing is push Intel for updates and bug fixes. At this point, due to the situation with Adobe Flash for TV, there is no clear roadmap for updating to a newer version. This is why you see this "no comment". We don't have good news and we don't have bad news. I would love to have newer version of Flash as much as you guys would, but it is completely out of our hands. If there is any update we will let you know. At this point it's clear that Flash for video is dying and that Internet videos will be based on HTML 5 (either standard or other, more secure means where DRM is required). We are in a transition period, that's why it's so frustrating.
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haveringcottage added a comment -
i would say that as the Intel platform has been discontinued, support is likely to be less than first class on this and as Adobe have signalled their move away from flash (especially for less well used platforms) i doubt they have a big team working on things.

This would be corroborated by Yuvalt's comment that a 3rd party is assisting porting flash to the intel platform - perhaps Adobe are not helping -at all-.... in which case, i'd say we're in for a LONG wait.
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haveringcottage added a comment - i would say that as the Intel platform has been discontinued, support is likely to be less than first class on this and as Adobe have signalled their move away from flash (especially for less well used platforms) i doubt they have a big team working on things. This would be corroborated by Yuvalt's comment that a 3rd party is assisting porting flash to the intel platform - perhaps Adobe are not helping -at all-.... in which case, i'd say we're in for a LONG wait.
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Rasmus Lock Fuglsang added a comment -
Which in turn boils down to:
1) Don't try to get Flash 10.3 upgraded. It's a moot point (once we get it, the services won't be using it anymore anyway).
2) DO put peer pressure on the services that you promise to deliver, and make sure they either use a supported version of Flash or (better) move to HTML 5.
Problem solved. It's not he "missing Flash 10.3" that's the issue, it's the "missing access to services promised".
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Rasmus Lock Fuglsang added a comment - Which in turn boils down to: 1) Don't try to get Flash 10.3 upgraded. It's a moot point (once we get it, the services won't be using it anymore anyway). 2) DO put peer pressure on the services that you promise to deliver, and make sure they either use a supported version of Flash or (better) move to HTML 5. Problem solved. It's not he "missing Flash 10.3" that's the issue, it's the "missing access to services promised".
Ami Ben-David [Boxee] made changes -
Link This issue is duplicated by BOXEE-10811 [ BOXEE-10811 ]
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Than Hansen added a comment -
I started having this problem a few days ago, trying to watch the latest episodes of the Colbert Report and Daily Show. Interesting that I'm able to watch streaming HD videos of Modern Family on ABC though, as I thought that too, was Flash based. Maybe they haven't updated their site yet, but if Boxee browser Flash updates aren't timely, it will make it hard to get the immense benefit of the browser. Please fix this soon!
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Than Hansen added a comment - I started having this problem a few days ago, trying to watch the latest episodes of the Colbert Report and Daily Show. Interesting that I'm able to watch streaming HD videos of Modern Family on ABC though, as I thought that too, was Flash based. Maybe they haven't updated their site yet, but if Boxee browser Flash updates aren't timely, it will make it hard to get the immense benefit of the browser. Please fix this soon!
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Mike added a comment -
I'm having the same issue with mtv.com. Is there anyway to install the flash player or do we need to wait for an update?
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Mike added a comment - I'm having the same issue with mtv.com. Is there anyway to install the flash player or do we need to wait for an update?
Ami Ben-David [Boxee] made changes -
Link This issue is duplicated by BOXEE-12622 [ BOXEE-12622 ]
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Mark Suman added a comment -
The NCAA and CBS just announced their plans for streaming March Madness this year. Lo and behold, it requires Flash 10.2 or higher. That means that we will not be able to watch the games on the Boxee Box. Yet another sector of the web has been cut off from Boxee due to this limitation.

Is Boxee working with CBS to get access to the non-Flash stream? I would be happy if there was a March Madness app on Boxee. I'm more than willing to pay the $3.99 price tag for access to the games.
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Mark Suman added a comment - The NCAA and CBS just announced their plans for streaming March Madness this year. Lo and behold, it requires Flash 10.2 or higher. That means that we will not be able to watch the games on the Boxee Box. Yet another sector of the web has been cut off from Boxee due to this limitation. Is Boxee working with CBS to get access to the non-Flash stream? I would be happy if there was a March Madness app on Boxee. I'm more than willing to pay the $3.99 price tag for access to the games.
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S Evardson added a comment -
Why is it that the boxee can't get the 4od content back up and running because of Flash issues but it can play the ps3 4od page fine... http://ps3.channel4.com/

Oh and if anyone from boxee checks that page please notice who it is associated with... a little known movie streaming service thats not on boxee.... no, not that one.
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S Evardson added a comment - Why is it that the boxee can't get the 4od content back up and running because of Flash issues but it can play the ps3 4od page fine... http://ps3.channel4.com/ Oh and if anyone from boxee checks that page please notice who it is associated with... a little known movie streaming service thats not on boxee.... no, not that one.
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Anthony PERRIN added a comment -
Hello,
I have bought boxee box previous month in France, only for seeing web replay tv. Two of three main french replay tv (France 3, M6) need flash 10.3. For me it's a highly critical issue !

Best Regards,
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Anthony PERRIN added a comment - Hello, I have bought boxee box previous month in France, only for seeing web replay tv. Two of three main french replay tv (France 3, M6) need flash 10.3. For me it's a highly critical issue ! Best Regards,     AP
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ben shaw added a comment -
I made a few typos but Adobe dont have a clue

Daniel Pedapenki: I understand that, you wish to know the release date of the product, am I correct?
 
ben: thats correct, flash 11 for linux CE
 
Daniel Pedapenki: Thank you for confirming.
 
Daniel Pedapenki: May I know the exact name of the product you are referring to please?
 
ben: I have a boxee box, boxee advise me they are awaiting flash 11 for linux ce

Daniel Pedapenki: Thank you for the information.
 
Daniel Pedapenki: Ben, the current version of the product Flash Professional is CS 5.5.
 
ben: is there any news of the update, we have flash 10.0 on the boxee box browser but boxee are awaiting the upgrade to 11 as far as I am aware
 
Daniel Pedapenki: Are you referring to the product Flash Player?
 
ben: yes
 
Daniel Pedapenki: Thank you for confirming.
 
Daniel Pedapenki: I am sorry to inform you that we have no online support for Flash Player, however I will provide you the link to install the Flash Player.
 
Daniel Pedapenki: Please uninstall the version that you have installed to install the new version.
 
Daniel Pedapenki: Please visit the link address below to install the flash player:-
 
Daniel Pedapenki: Please click here
 
Daniel Pedapenki: For further help, please visit the forum:-
 
Daniel Pedapenki: Please click here
 
Daniel Pedapenki: For troubleshooting steps, please visit:-
 
Daniel Pedapenki: Please click here
 
ben: I have 11 on my PC, we are told that flash 11 for Linx CE is to be released shortly which should update the boxee browser I was looking for a release date.
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ben shaw added a comment - I made a few typos but Adobe dont have a clue Daniel Pedapenki: I understand that, you wish to know the release date of the product, am I correct?   ben: thats correct, flash 11 for linux CE   Daniel Pedapenki: Thank you for confirming.   Daniel Pedapenki: May I know the exact name of the product you are referring to please?   ben: I have a boxee box, boxee advise me they are awaiting flash 11 for linux ce Daniel Pedapenki: Thank you for the information.   Daniel Pedapenki: Ben, the current version of the product Flash Professional is CS 5.5.   ben: is there any news of the update, we have flash 10.0 on the boxee box browser but boxee are awaiting the upgrade to 11 as far as I am aware   Daniel Pedapenki: Are you referring to the product Flash Player?   ben: yes   Daniel Pedapenki: Thank you for confirming.   Daniel Pedapenki: I am sorry to inform you that we have no online support for Flash Player, however I will provide you the link to install the Flash Player.   Daniel Pedapenki: Please uninstall the version that you have installed to install the new version.   Daniel Pedapenki: Please visit the link address below to install the flash player:-   Daniel Pedapenki: Please click here   Daniel Pedapenki: For further help, please visit the forum:-   Daniel Pedapenki: Please click here   Daniel Pedapenki: For troubleshooting steps, please visit:-   Daniel Pedapenki: Please click here   ben: I have 11 on my PC, we are told that flash 11 for Linx CE is to be released shortly which should update the boxee browser I was looking for a release date.
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Iban Mirones added a comment -
Flash 11 is already released for linux I got it on my Ubuntu 11.10 64 bits...so when wil we get it in our Boxee Box??
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Iban Mirones added a comment - Flash 11 is already released for linux I got it on my Ubuntu 11.10 64 bits...so when wil we get it in our Boxee Box??
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darcilicious added a comment -
Boxee Box doesn't run Ubuntu. It runs Linux CE. Adobe hasn't released Flash 11 for Linux CE.
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darcilicious added a comment - Boxee Box doesn't run Ubuntu. It runs Linux CE. Adobe hasn't released Flash 11 for Linux CE.
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Andrzej Kardaś added a comment -
by investigating the issue on Adobe site I found this:
http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/02/adobe-and-google-partnering-for-flash-player-on-linux.html

I don't think we will see a good will from Adobe, if they are targeting only one Browser on Linux platform I don't think they will find time to complie binary version on flash player For Linux CE on Intel Atom. Maybe it would be possible to implement PAAPI in Boxee Browser, I don't know will it be possible at all but at least that could be kind of a solution for the problem we all are facing here.

http://code.google.com/p/ppapi/
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Andrzej Kardaś added a comment - by investigating the issue on Adobe site I found this: http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/02/adobe-and-google-partnering-for-flash-player-on-linux.html I don't think we will see a good will from Adobe, if they are targeting only one Browser on Linux platform I don't think they will find time to complie binary version on flash player For Linux CE on Intel Atom. Maybe it would be possible to implement PAAPI in Boxee Browser, I don't know will it be possible at all but at least that could be kind of a solution for the problem we all are facing here. http://code.google.com/p/ppapi/
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Thomas M. added a comment -
This seems like its now one of the biggest problems facing the Boxee Box, and one with a very uncertain outcome.
I can only imagine how frustrated the Boxee team is with this issue (Adobe!). I'll just hope for a miracle (ASAP), I guess...
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Thomas M. added a comment - This seems like its now one of the biggest problems facing the Boxee Box, and one with a very uncertain outcome. I can only imagine how frustrated the Boxee team is with this issue (Adobe!). I'll just hope for a miracle (ASAP), I guess...
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Anthony PERRIN added a comment -
At least two solutions :
* First solution change boxee browser for webkit (if it's not already) and implements PAAPI,
* Second solution Change distribution Linux CE for ubuntu or debian.

In each case Boxee team MUST communicate and go to work.
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Anthony PERRIN added a comment - At least two solutions : * First solution change boxee browser for webkit (if it's not already) and implements PAAPI, * Second solution Change distribution Linux CE for ubuntu or debian. In each case Boxee team MUST communicate and go to work.
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darcilicious added a comment -
Not sure about the first but I suspect it's not actually viable.

As for the second, never going to happen.
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darcilicious added a comment - Not sure about the first but I suspect it's not actually viable. As for the second, never going to happen.
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chris clabaugh added a comment -
IMHO the non-response of the Boxee Dev Team is a defacto admission that Boxee Product Management made a poor choice of product strategy to begin with. How could they have chosen to tightly couple a critical piece of their product to a technology that is known to issue frequent, almost monthly, point releases, many of which invalidate client-side players as we have seen. The device is now less functional than my hacked iTV Version 1.

Time to call a pig a pig. Off to explore Roku. What a shame.
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chris clabaugh added a comment - IMHO the non-response of the Boxee Dev Team is a defacto admission that Boxee Product Management made a poor choice of product strategy to begin with. How could they have chosen to tightly couple a critical piece of their product to a technology that is known to issue frequent, almost monthly, point releases, many of which invalidate client-side players as we have seen. The device is now less functional than my hacked iTV Version 1. Time to call a pig a pig. Off to explore Roku. What a shame.
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Stephen Simpson added a comment -
The Boxee team has already responded to this about a hundred times. There is no secrecy here. If you look virtually anywhere you'll see that flash version 11 i not yet available for CE devices.
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Stephen Simpson added a comment - The Boxee team has already responded to this about a hundred times. There is no secrecy here. If you look virtually anywhere you'll see that flash version 11 i not yet available for CE devices.
Asaf Gdaliahu [Boxee] made changes -
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ruediger weigt added a comment -
sold

please delete my account

Thank you
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ruediger weigt added a comment - sold please delete my account Thank you
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Josh Olsen added a comment -
Any news on flash 10.2 or 10.3 for the boxee box??

I love my boxee box however I could not stream the NCAA Mens basketball Tourny at all and now I cannot stream the masters golf tournament from the masters website (which requires flash 10.2) http://www.masters.com/en_US/live/index.html
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Josh Olsen added a comment - Any news on flash 10.2 or 10.3 for the boxee box?? I love my boxee box however I could not stream the NCAA Mens basketball Tourny at all and now I cannot stream the masters golf tournament from the masters website (which requires flash 10.2) http://www.masters.com/en_US/live/index.html
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Frans Verschoor added a comment -
I think that Boxee also must support the Flash 11.N asap.
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Frans Verschoor added a comment - I think that Boxee also must support the Flash 11.N asap.
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chris clabaugh added a comment -
Sold it. Hot potato-ed to another person, hope he uses it just for local media streams and not anything delivered by or requiring Flash. What a disappointment. Off looking at WD Live, Roku, possibly ATV2.5 or whatever they're calling it.
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chris clabaugh added a comment - Sold it. Hot potato-ed to another person, hope he uses it just for local media streams and not anything delivered by or requiring Flash. What a disappointment. Off looking at WD Live, Roku, possibly ATV2.5 or whatever they're calling it.
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Josh Olsen added a comment -
The boxee box was the best box ever 3 months ago. With all the main streaming sites moving to updated versions of flash, the boxee box becomes worthless for the streaming aspect...

Any updates on this issue Tom Sella????
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Josh Olsen added a comment - The boxee box was the best box ever 3 months ago. With all the main streaming sites moving to updated versions of flash, the boxee box becomes worthless for the streaming aspect... Any updates on this issue Tom Sella????
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Allen Hiltz added a comment -
I was going to buy a Boxee Box TODAY until I read about this eight month old problem which cripples it's ability to stream from CBC, CTV, etc. I could ignore the other little bugs, but THIS bug was the deal breaker. I would love to own one and I may still buy one, but not until this issue is fixed.
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Allen Hiltz added a comment - I was going to buy a Boxee Box TODAY until I read about this eight month old problem which cripples it's ability to stream from CBC, CTV, etc. I could ignore the other little bugs, but THIS bug was the deal breaker. I would love to own one and I may still buy one, but not until this issue is fixed.
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Steve Pacholka added a comment -
CBC and CTV works just fine for me. Most stuff works just fine. Its only FOX and ESPN that don't work for me, of what I tried anyway.
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Steve Pacholka added a comment - CBC and CTV works just fine for me. Most stuff works just fine. Its only FOX and ESPN that don't work for me, of what I tried anyway.
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Allen Hiltz added a comment -
Thanks Steve! I'm going to go buy one in a few hours. I'll post my results. :-)
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Allen Hiltz added a comment - Thanks Steve! I'm going to go buy one in a few hours. I'll post my results. :-)
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Steve Pacholka added a comment -
np. check out unblock-us.com or proxpn.com. great way to get access to US content from Canada.
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Steve Pacholka added a comment - np. check out unblock-us.com or proxpn.com. great way to get access to US content from Canada.
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Allen Hiltz added a comment -
My Boxee Box arrived a few days ago and I'm happy to report that I haven't had any flash problems when trying to access content from Canadian broadcasters. I am VERY happy with my purchase. CBC, CTV, Global, ComedyNetwork, and any other one I tried to watch all work perfectly. Maybe they switched to HTML5. At any rate, this flash issue hasn't been a problem for me. Thanks for the info, Steve!
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Allen Hiltz added a comment - My Boxee Box arrived a few days ago and I'm happy to report that I haven't had any flash problems when trying to access content from Canadian broadcasters. I am VERY happy with my purchase. CBC, CTV, Global, ComedyNetwork, and any other one I tried to watch all work perfectly. Maybe they switched to HTML5. At any rate, this flash issue hasn't been a problem for me. Thanks for the info, Steve!
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Bruce Nguyen added a comment -
For Canadian broadcasters, CityTV hasn't worked for awhile because it requires the Flash update. Boxee just removed all CityTV shows from the listing so you don't see it.

Also just today it looks like Global has stopped working. When trying to catch up with Survivor and the Office, it just says you need Flash 10.1 or higher (I thought Boxee did have Flash 10.1). Hopefully this is just a detection glitch on Global's end and not another Canadian broadcaster that we're about to lose until we get an updated Flash version on Boxee.
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Bruce Nguyen added a comment - For Canadian broadcasters, CityTV hasn't worked for awhile because it requires the Flash update. Boxee just removed all CityTV shows from the listing so you don't see it. Also just today it looks like Global has stopped working. When trying to catch up with Survivor and the Office, it just says you need Flash 10.1 or higher (I thought Boxee did have Flash 10.1). Hopefully this is just a detection glitch on Global's end and not another Canadian broadcaster that we're about to lose until we get an updated Flash version on Boxee.
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chris clabaugh added a comment -
Bruce, sorry but I am afraid you will be as disappointed as all the others on this incredibly long list of bug comments, rants, etc. As more an more online broadcasters move to the latest minor point release of Flash, more an more content becomes unreachable.
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chris clabaugh added a comment - Bruce, sorry but I am afraid you will be as disappointed as all the others on this incredibly long list of bug comments, rants, etc. As more an more online broadcasters move to the latest minor point release of Flash, more an more content becomes unreachable.
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Al added a comment -
Yup - Global doesn't work anymore because it needs a flash update... B@LLS! Enough is enough... I'm switching to Win7 Platform XBMC; Boxee is just garbage
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Al added a comment - Yup - Global doesn't work anymore because it needs a flash update... B@LLS ! Enough is enough... I'm switching to Win7 Platform XBMC; Boxee is just garbage
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Dude added a comment -
Without web streaming support, I'm going to have to switch devices. There has to be some sort of work-around to get flash updated and working. Just do it already.
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Dude added a comment - Without web streaming support, I'm going to have to switch devices. There has to be some sort of work-around to get flash updated and working. Just do it already.
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nascent added a comment -
It hasn't worked in over 6 months, the staff are totally avoiding the issue. Passing blame to everyone but themselves, first adobe, then intel. Unwilling to admit there's even a problem, it's pretty clear they never had a decent business model, the whole thing hinged on this hacked together XBMC fork that only worked in the first place because of it's open source nature being able to program around incompetent media companies. Then when Boxee gained popularity because if it's pretty UI, they decided to cash in with dlink, but it has zero sustainability. Nothing in the Uk works, except iPlayer, who are actively going out of their way to work on everything.

To get 4OD you have to use the awful youtube app, there's no Channel5, no ITV, all the american stuff like comedy central is 60 second previews, and not full eps.
No lovefilm, no netflix, no blinkbox. It's an embarrassment. They've already dropped the price by about £50 because everyone on amazon is rating it 1 star and no one is buying, so I've already made a huge loss.

The PS3 has a far better online media selection, all tv channels, netflix, lovefilm, everything you'd want. It's even a bluray device.


I pity anyone that buys one of these.
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nascent added a comment - It hasn't worked in over 6 months, the staff are totally avoiding the issue. Passing blame to everyone but themselves, first adobe, then intel. Unwilling to admit there's even a problem, it's pretty clear they never had a decent business model, the whole thing hinged on this hacked together XBMC fork that only worked in the first place because of it's open source nature being able to program around incompetent media companies. Then when Boxee gained popularity because if it's pretty UI, they decided to cash in with dlink, but it has zero sustainability. Nothing in the Uk works, except iPlayer, who are actively going out of their way to work on everything. To get 4OD you have to use the awful youtube app, there's no Channel5, no ITV, all the american stuff like comedy central is 60 second previews, and not full eps. No lovefilm, no netflix, no blinkbox. It's an embarrassment. They've already dropped the price by about £50 because everyone on amazon is rating it 1 star and no one is buying, so I've already made a huge loss. The PS3 has a far better online media selection, all tv channels, netflix, lovefilm, everything you'd want. It's even a bluray device. I pity anyone that buys one of these.
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Steve Pacholka added a comment -
its starting to look doubtful but I'm still able to find enough content to tide me over. Its used for the most part by my 2 and 3 yr olds who use youtube to stream annoying kids shows all day long. Other than that I use Navi-X and watch alot off of the Comedy Network and CTV here in Canada since they havnt updated yet. If you don't subscribe to a VPN or use Unblock-US then thats all you'll get in Canada. I do subscribe to unblock-US and that does allow me access to alot more American stuff, however most of it has already been upgraded to the latest flash and no longer works on boxee. BBC Iplayer works well with unblock-us so there is alot of good content there. If you are patient and keep track of your sources there are plenty of things to keep you entertained. Boxee should not require one to struggle with it and bend international copyright laws inorder to get content that would normally be available legit if flash could be updated on the box though. Blame Adobe, Blame Intel, Blame Boxee. Whats it matter? This has been an issue for an extremely long time. I've only had the Box since xmas. Starting to regret paying so much for something I could of got elsewhere for far less. I'd return it if I could. The potential was there but someone somewhere let it slip away.
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Steve Pacholka added a comment - its starting to look doubtful but I'm still able to find enough content to tide me over. Its used for the most part by my 2 and 3 yr olds who use youtube to stream annoying kids shows all day long. Other than that I use Navi-X and watch alot off of the Comedy Network and CTV here in Canada since they havnt updated yet. If you don't subscribe to a VPN or use Unblock-US then thats all you'll get in Canada. I do subscribe to unblock-US and that does allow me access to alot more American stuff, however most of it has already been upgraded to the latest flash and no longer works on boxee. BBC Iplayer works well with unblock-us so there is alot of good content there. If you are patient and keep track of your sources there are plenty of things to keep you entertained. Boxee should not require one to struggle with it and bend international copyright laws inorder to get content that would normally be available legit if flash could be updated on the box though. Blame Adobe, Blame Intel, Blame Boxee. Whats it matter? This has been an issue for an extremely long time. I've only had the Box since xmas. Starting to regret paying so much for something I could of got elsewhere for far less. I'd return it if I could. The potential was there but someone somewhere let it slip away.
Ami Ben-David [Boxee] made changes -
Link This issue is duplicated by BOXEE-12896 [ BOXEE-12896 ]
Ami Ben-David [Boxee] made changes -
Link This issue is duplicated by BOXEE-12897 [ BOXEE-12897 ]
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David Allison added a comment -
Flash player on Boxee never worked. GlobalTV, Showcase, History in Canada always drop the stream part way through and gleefully announce that the 'content is no longer available'. Requiring you to exit the browser and restart the streIam where you left off.

Now today GlobalTV has decided to update flash and we're stuck with nothing working at all.

Is there any way of providing the ability for th user to update flash manually if they run into this problem? Not as part of a firmware update, but all on it's own.

This problem has gone on for too long. Even YouTube doesn't stream reliably.
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David Allison added a comment - Flash player on Boxee never worked. GlobalTV, Showcase, History in Canada always drop the stream part way through and gleefully announce that the 'content is no longer available'. Requiring you to exit the browser and restart the streIam where you left off. Now today GlobalTV has decided to update flash and we're stuck with nothing working at all. Is there any way of providing the ability for th user to update flash manually if they run into this problem? Not as part of a firmware update, but all on it's own. This problem has gone on for too long. Even YouTube doesn't stream reliably.
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Steve Pacholka added a comment -
Boxee can't do anything until Adobe releases the Flash update for Linux CE sadly. I'd like to see Boxee put more pressure on Adobe and whomever else they need to to get this done. This has gone on for far to long. I would not have bought this thing if I had know it would be useless in less than 6 months of purchase.Put the pressure on already. Boxee team, Let us know what you are doing in order to resolve this. No more silence please. You owe us that much at the very least for the nearly $200 we gave you.
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Steve Pacholka added a comment - Boxee can't do anything until Adobe releases the Flash update for Linux CE sadly. I'd like to see Boxee put more pressure on Adobe and whomever else they need to to get this done. This has gone on for far to long. I would not have bought this thing if I had know it would be useless in less than 6 months of purchase.Put the pressure on already. Boxee team, Let us know what you are doing in order to resolve this. No more silence please. You owe us that much at the very least for the nearly $200 we gave you.
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Andrzej Kardaś added a comment -
I already wrote here about Adobe Flash and Linux and posted a link I found on Adobe site. They are targeting PPAPI for Linux and from what I think we can wait forever for porting recent flash for Linux CE. PPAPI is open source solution possibile to implement in third party browsers. PPAPI should provide the hardware absratcion layer for various browsers plugins and could be kind of a solution to this problem. PPAPI is implemented in Google Chrome and open source version of Chromium browser which I use a lot at my Linux Boxes (and all streaming is working flawlasy there NBA.tv, Youtube, Vimeo etc.). Maybe a compilation of Chroimium for Boxee would be possible. I think at least someone from Boxee could step up and explain if they think it is the right way to go and if not why not.
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Andrzej Kardaś added a comment - I already wrote here about Adobe Flash and Linux and posted a link I found on Adobe site. They are targeting PPAPI for Linux and from what I think we can wait forever for porting recent flash for Linux CE. PPAPI is open source solution possibile to implement in third party browsers. PPAPI should provide the hardware absratcion layer for various browsers plugins and could be kind of a solution to this problem. PPAPI is implemented in Google Chrome and open source version of Chromium browser which I use a lot at my Linux Boxes (and all streaming is working flawlasy there NBA.tv, Youtube, Vimeo etc.). Maybe a compilation of Chroimium for Boxee would be possible. I think at least someone from Boxee could step up and explain if they think it is the right way to go and if not why not.
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Brian King added a comment -
I have only recently purchased a boxee box on amazon and feel cheated that i didnt read into to this more.
Surely it is false advertising on the boxee website stating if you can play it on a computer you can play it on a boxee box.

if there not even responding surely they have no interesting in fixing the problem.
Im well and truly sickened, wish i bought a different set top media box now.

And is netflix available on it or not? as it is still on the website as featured content
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Brian King added a comment - I have only recently purchased a boxee box on amazon and feel cheated that i didnt read into to this more. Surely it is false advertising on the boxee website stating if you can play it on a computer you can play it on a boxee box. if there not even responding surely they have no interesting in fixing the problem. Im well and truly sickened, wish i bought a different set top media box now. And is netflix available on it or not? as it is still on the website as featured content
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Stephen Simpson added a comment -
You pretty much can except for certain flash sites right now. That is all on adobe, I would recommend bringing this up with them. For the record, Im sure boxee is very very interested in updating flash but they do not own or control adobe. And yes, netflix is 100% available in the US.
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Stephen Simpson added a comment - You pretty much can except for certain flash sites right now. That is all on adobe, I would recommend bringing this up with them. For the record, Im sure boxee is very very interested in updating flash but they do not own or control adobe. And yes, netflix is 100% available in the US.
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Steve Pacholka added a comment -
Netflix works just fine in Canada and the US. It probably works just fine elsewhere with a US VPN or a services like Unblock-US and a pre-paid US credit card. Its not only flash thats killing the boxee right now its the lack of the ability to play LIVE streaming content as well. RTMP, which most live streaming content is, does not work on boxee either. Thats another issue but yet another one that goes against what the box is advertised to be able to do. I really do think if Adobe does not give Boxee the flash update that Boxee needs to accept responsibility for their poor choices during development. Maybe what Andrzej said will give us some hope. I'd love to hear what the Boxee team has to say about that suggestion.
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Steve Pacholka added a comment - Netflix works just fine in Canada and the US. It probably works just fine elsewhere with a US VPN or a services like Unblock-US and a pre-paid US credit card. Its not only flash thats killing the boxee right now its the lack of the ability to play LIVE streaming content as well. RTMP, which most live streaming content is, does not work on boxee either. Thats another issue but yet another one that goes against what the box is advertised to be able to do. I really do think if Adobe does not give Boxee the flash update that Boxee needs to accept responsibility for their poor choices during development. Maybe what Andrzej said will give us some hope. I'd love to hear what the Boxee team has to say about that suggestion.
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Brian King added a comment -
ok, but more and sites will be going to the new version of flash i presume.
Whats adobes agenda for not releasing it have they deals with other companies or something?

Im in ireland so hopefully netflix will work here, works on my computer and android phone no problem
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Brian King added a comment - ok, but more and sites will be going to the new version of flash i presume. Whats adobes agenda for not releasing it have they deals with other companies or something? Im in ireland so hopefully netflix will work here, works on my computer and android phone no problem
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Stephen Simpson added a comment -
No, its nothing like that, its the same reason they stopped developing flash for mobile phones. Not a binch of people were using it so they allocated resources elsewhere.
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Stephen Simpson added a comment - No, its nothing like that, its the same reason they stopped developing flash for mobile phones. Not a binch of people were using it so they allocated resources elsewhere.
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Brian King added a comment -
oh right hopefully the sites i watch soccer on will use the old flash version.
Thats one of the main reasons i bought it.
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Brian King added a comment - oh right hopefully the sites i watch soccer on will use the old flash version. Thats one of the main reasons i bought it.
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A Grant added a comment -
Just my opinion, but based on my own experiences and challenges in the business of computer programming over 25 years , plus observing the behaviors of numerous software vendors we deal with, it is my suspicion that the directors at Boxee are mulling over various exit strategies rather than continue to deal with an endless string of problematic upgrades imposed on them by external sources. Something they may not have anticipated when they ventured into the boxee concept. Hopefully this will prove wrong.
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A Grant added a comment - Just my opinion, but based on my own experiences and challenges in the business of computer programming over 25 years , plus observing the behaviors of numerous software vendors we deal with, it is my suspicion that the directors at Boxee are mulling over various exit strategies rather than continue to deal with an endless string of problematic upgrades imposed on them by external sources. Something they may not have anticipated when they ventured into the boxee concept. Hopefully this will prove wrong.
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Rasmus Lock Fuglsang added a comment -
Well, their strategy is simple, wait it out, hope the customers stay, and eventually Flash will be obsolete, and everything will move to HTML5 - a technology Boxee already support through their browser. But I guess that is just one of the exit-strategies mentioned my A Grant :)
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Rasmus Lock Fuglsang added a comment - Well, their strategy is simple, wait it out, hope the customers stay, and eventually Flash will be obsolete, and everything will move to HTML5 - a technology Boxee already support through their browser. But I guess that is just one of the exit-strategies mentioned my A Grant :)
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Bill Brazell added a comment -
I have an idea that might get someone motivated to fix this issue. Money! I'll gladly pay $5 for a current Flash Player on the Boxee Box. Judging by the length of this thread, they would make a bundle of cash. Not sure if they can target updates to certain boxes, but if they can this might work.
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Bill Brazell added a comment - I have an idea that might get someone motivated to fix this issue. Money! I'll gladly pay $5 for a current Flash Player on the Boxee Box. Judging by the length of this thread, they would make a bundle of cash. Not sure if they can target updates to certain boxes, but if they can this might work.
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Mark Suman added a comment -
I understand the anger in here about this issue. I've posted here many times as well, expressing my frustration. So many things I love to watch, like ESPN3, no longer work. However, saying that Boxee is not dealing with the issue, or making assumptions about the executives of Boxee looking at an exit strategy from the company is off-base.

Boxee has repeatedly explained the issue, including Avner himself talking about it in his public online Q&A sessions. (I applaud him for holding these events and answering questions from customers point-blank. That's pretty awesome.) The executives aren't going anywhere. I imagine they are weighing the cost/benefit analysis of working around the limitations of the Intel and Adobe platforms.

It's a sucky situation that all us users are in, but I do believe that Boxee would do something if it was feasible. Unfortunately, I don't know if it is at this point.
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Mark Suman added a comment - I understand the anger in here about this issue. I've posted here many times as well, expressing my frustration. So many things I love to watch, like ESPN3, no longer work. However, saying that Boxee is not dealing with the issue, or making assumptions about the executives of Boxee looking at an exit strategy from the company is off-base. Boxee has repeatedly explained the issue, including Avner himself talking about it in his public online Q&A sessions. (I applaud him for holding these events and answering questions from customers point-blank. That's pretty awesome.) The executives aren't going anywhere. I imagine they are weighing the cost/benefit analysis of working around the limitations of the Intel and Adobe platforms. It's a sucky situation that all us users are in, but I do believe that Boxee would do something if it was feasible. Unfortunately, I don't know if it is at this point.
Kosta Bryman [Boxee] made changes -
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rob e added a comment -
boxee's position seems to be:

thanks for your money. suck it up or buy our next boxee device

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:(

how is the next boxee box going to be maintained IDEOLOGICALLY differently?

I setup bbox at three different houses because of the alleged ease.

the actual XBMC setups are looking more an more appealing

Even the Raspberry Pi with XBMC looks to be more functionally capable!! that's sad, boxee

Fortunately usenet sourcing is still viable for programming I have licensed.

I want better gui treatment as a LOCAL ONLY user.

I have no interest in privacy rape (ad supported) apps!!!!


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rob e added a comment - boxee's position seems to be: thanks for your money. suck it up or buy our next boxee device . :( how is the next boxee box going to be maintained IDEOLOGICALLY differently? I setup bbox at three different houses because of the alleged ease. the actual XBMC setups are looking more an more appealing Even the Raspberry Pi with XBMC looks to be more functionally capable!! that's sad, boxee Fortunately usenet sourcing is still viable for programming I have licensed. I want better gui treatment as a LOCAL ONLY user. I have no interest in privacy rape (ad supported) apps!!!!
Asaf Gdaliahu [Boxee] made changes -
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S Evardson added a comment -
I still want to know why Boxee aren't providing 4od content to the uk because of the flash issue if you can go to http://ps3.channel4.com/ and watch the content.

Oh yeh, because they can't be bothered.
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S Evardson added a comment - I still want to know why Boxee aren't providing 4od content to the uk because of the flash issue if you can go to http://ps3.channel4.com/ and watch the content. Oh yeh, because they can't be bothered.
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Tid added a comment -
Looking at all the comments and following some of the links. I think it is fair to say Adobe is dumping flash player funding and focusing their budget on HTML5.

In business world take this pretty much means cut all funding to smaller development projects and continue to support mainstream development until "date-x" when we will have a global press day saying Flash is dead.

For us Boxee users that means I don't think we are ever going to see a Flash update built and we can only apply pressure to media companies to jump on the HTML5 bandwagon which given Adobe has made the announcement already to pull flash funding providers should start scrambling for HTML5.

http://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/showthread.php?t=80941
http://www.martiusweb.net/post/Flash-On-Linux-Chrome
http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/adobe-confirms-flash-player-is-dead-for-mobile-devices/
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Tid added a comment - Looking at all the comments and following some of the links. I think it is fair to say Adobe is dumping flash player funding and focusing their budget on HTML5. In business world take this pretty much means cut all funding to smaller development projects and continue to support mainstream development until "date-x" when we will have a global press day saying Flash is dead. For us Boxee users that means I don't think we are ever going to see a Flash update built and we can only apply pressure to media companies to jump on the HTML5 bandwagon which given Adobe has made the announcement already to pull flash funding providers should start scrambling for HTML5. http://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/showthread.php?t=80941 http://www.martiusweb.net/post/Flash-On-Linux-Chrome http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/adobe-confirms-flash-player-is-dead-for-mobile-devices/
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Rabih added a comment -
Problem solved for who is not using boxee box , just unistall the adobe flash 11 .
download adobe 10.3 from this link :
http://www.4shared.com/rar/l3S-Sg9u/Adobe_Flash_Player_103.html

lunch boxee again ....done
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Rabih added a comment - Problem solved for who is not using boxee box , just unistall the adobe flash 11 . download adobe 10.3 from this link : http://www.4shared.com/rar/l3S-Sg9u/Adobe_Flash_Player_103.html lunch boxee again ....done
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Noam Blit added a comment -
I have been using Boxee since it was first announced.
After all these years i have decided to get rid of my htpc and use the boxee box, only to find out that i bought a piece of plastic with some electronics inside, that cannot provide the content promised.
Guys when will you wake up and resolve this issue? you might want to put out a warning or to tell distributors, such as Amazon to place a warning to ppotential buyers.

חברה תתעוררו, המתחרים משאירים אתכם מאחור
guys wake up, the competition is way ahead of you.

 
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Noam Blit added a comment - I have been using Boxee since it was first announced. After all these years i have decided to get rid of my htpc and use the boxee box, only to find out that i bought a piece of plastic with some electronics inside, that cannot provide the content promised. Guys when will you wake up and resolve this issue? you might want to put out a warning or to tell distributors, such as Amazon to place a warning to ppotential buyers. חברה תתעוררו, המתחרים משאירים אתכם מאחור guys wake up, the competition is way ahead of you.  
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innovativevsregressive added a comment -
Confirmed - Flash update is on the way in the final Boxee Box update

"Second – we will be releasing an updated Flash player for Boxee in the next few months. It should improve the browser experience and add some important content back to the TV show library. We will post an update in November which will let you know when to expect the release of the updated Flash player."

http://old-blog.boxee.tv/2012/10/31/to-our-community-of-boxee-box-owners/
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innovativevsregressive added a comment - Confirmed - Flash update is on the way in the final Boxee Box update "Second – we will be releasing an updated Flash player for Boxee in the next few months. It should improve the browser experience and add some important content back to the TV show library. We will post an update in November which will let you know when to expect the release of the updated Flash player." http://old-blog.boxee.tv/2012/10/31/to-our-community-of-boxee-box-owners/
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nascent added a comment - - edited
Too little too late. I sold my Boxee box months ago, it's not handled online video for a year, and we've had ZERO updates telling us what is going on. I switched to XBMC a while ago, and haven't looked back. It's so much more powerful than Boxee was that I wonder how the company still exists considering Boxee is based on XBMC.

Even if they release a flash update now, this will repeat itself in the future, the Boxee team have showed how they view their customers, and if they haven't had any respect for them for the past year, they wont in the future too.

Just liked how they promised Netflix support nearly a year ago, and are now saying Boxee Box wont have it after all.
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nascent added a comment - - edited Too little too late. I sold my Boxee box months ago, it's not handled online video for a year, and we've had ZERO updates telling us what is going on. I switched to XBMC a while ago, and haven't looked back. It's so much more powerful than Boxee was that I wonder how the company still exists considering Boxee is based on XBMC. Even if they release a flash update now, this will repeat itself in the future, the Boxee team have showed how they view their customers, and if they haven't had any respect for them for the past year, they wont in the future too. Just liked how they promised Netflix support nearly a year ago, and are now saying Boxee Box wont have it after all.
Asaf Gdaliahu [Boxee] made changes -
Link This issue is related to BOXEE-12991 [ BOXEE-12991 ]
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Link This issue is related to BOXEE-13052 [ BOXEE-13052 ]
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    Quagliero Sanchez
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